Affirmative Action Debate: Conclusion (14 of 14)

The motion: "It's time to end affirmative action"

Moderator: Robert Siegel
Speaking for the motion: John H. McWhorter, Terence J. Pell and Joseph C. Phillips
Speaking against the motion: Khin Mai Aung, Kimberlé Crenshaw and Tim Wise

IQ2US marks the launch of Oxford-style debating -- one motion, one moderator, three advocates for the motion, three against -- in New York City. Each evening begins at 6:00P with a complimentary cocktail period. As you enter the theater before the debate starts at 6:45P, you cast your vote for or against the evening's motion. Those results are displayed midway through the debate as each side makes its statements. After all six panelists speak, the audience has a chance to ask the speakers questions and vote again. The debate finishes with brief summations from the panelists, the votes are tallied and a winning side is declared.

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• intelligence
• squared
• u.s.
• iq2
• debate
• affirmative
• action
• race
• gender
• equality
• sexism
• racism
• preference
• civil
• rights

[Meda01]

Tim Wise has a great way to show every white person exactly how you feel. If there was a pill that if you took made you look black or brown to anyone who didn't know you future employers, bankers, cops, doctors etc. Would you rather take the pill and all the supposed benefits you get because of affirmative action or would you rather stay white? Don't feel like you have to comment and reply, but honestly answer yourself that question.

[ArcBladeKnight]

snowtrot can't say whites are better intellectually because 1) it's not true, and 2) by saying that you're saying that the white races is a superior race. And that's definitely not true. You're obivously not better intellectually.

[AliceNchainz011]

@Deron3003 Do you think a "minority" with a lower test score should be selected over a white person with a higher test score and/or qualifications?

[Sivels]

@Deron3003 google african albinos... do they look like white europeans? no... SIGH

[Deron3003]

@catsdogseagles that is not what AA is for...AA is for having equal representation in universities, jobs, and so on..black people and women are underrepresented in every category.. 1) being muslim is a faith not a race or ethnicity 2)middle eastern people are overrepresented in business, and universities compared to their representation in the US

[Deron3003]

@Sivels 1) race is only skin color and genealogy. 2) studies have recently come out disproving your premise that there are brain differences solely based on race 3) the brain differences come from culture which controls habits of thought and language which in turn effects the brain 4) these difference do not effect overall intelligence only how one "originally" thinks

[willia3r]

@Meda01

I agree. 2 years after posting this and your comment still holds as being very logically.

[willia3r]

Tim Wise totally owns this whole debate. Passion definitely helps.

[Sivels]

@ArcBladeKnight You conclude whites aren't intellectually superior because 1) you say it's not true and 2) by doing so you would admit that there's no such thing as equality.

God, you're a moron.

[Sivels]

@Meda01 race is more than just skin color, there are physiological and brain differences as well.

[Roguefox2006]

@Meda01

Tim wise's pill analogy completely disregards a persons sense of identity, both culturally and racially, it would feel deeply uncomfortable for most persons of any race to be looked upon or treated as a member of another race or ethnic group.

People want to be treated as individuals, whilst at the same time having there own customs and beliefs be acknowledged by the people their interacting with. ( eg:a muslim would feel offended at being served pork)

treat people as individuals !

[roflbatsupreme]

Great moderator, kept things from getting bloated.