Theist( Adam Deen) vs. atheist (Raymond Tallis). "Theism or atheism ? You choose..."

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Adam Deen debates Raymond Tallis.
http://www.raymondtallis.com/
theist vs. atheist.
Professor Raymond Tallis is a philosopher, poet, novelist and cultural critic and was until recently a physician and clinical scientist. In the Economist's Intelligent Life Magazine (Autumn 2009) he was listed as one of the top living polymaths in the world.

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  • Hang on....wasn't this guy on "The Big Questions" on BBC??

  • @Sykotix1 yes.

  • the sound is horrible... I can not hear a thing on my laptop I have everything at max :(

  • @dinotles It improves after 2nd minute.

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  • You know something is wrong when a debater claims that the statement, "God does *not* exist" is a positive proposition.

  • I think Adam is way out of his league ,way out .It looks like Raymond is the teacher trying to explain something to a student who just dosent get it.

  • Argument of, god is powerful but is not helping against evil is a bad argument.

    Even if God is bad, it wont change that he exists.

    But let's see this argument:

    A professor sees his student making mistake in an exam.

    He has the power to correct him and save his future life but he refuse helping him.

    Does it mean that that professor is a bad professor ?

    Does it mean that that professor does not exist ?

  • Will theists ever learn to use different and original "arguments"?

    Do I know the voice asking the stupid questions at around 1:07? Adnan Rashid?

    It seems many people still and even today don't understand the concept of atheism.

    Dr Raymond is not clear and does not articulate the pertinent points.

    Unconvincing performance on both sides.

  • @MrGrandDragon and your point is?

  • FOR NAZI ACURACY,;even the majority of germans directly involved in the torture and murder of jews or working in the concentration camps reported later that even as they commited these acts they felt it was wrong.Even Hitlers designated successor,Herman Goring,when shown films of the concentration camps at his trial in nurenberg hung his head and looked away.The only moment he was not proud,upright and confident,looking all in the face.

  • @sensimania1 Your view entails that my question was a meaningless tautology, but, intuitively, it seem to be meaningful. Furthermore, your view fails to capture moral disagreement. If A and B disagree over the moral goodness of some act, for you to say, "It is good for you, A, and bad for you, B. So, there is no real disagreement." Both A and B will respond, "We know what we think is the case, but we disagree about what is the case." Also, more problems remain for you: read Plato's Theaetetus.

  • @sensimania1 You define morally good as what the majority decides to be permissible action. I ask a meaningful question: Is the Nazi killing of persons morally good? You say, Yes, because the majority of Germans thought it was. I reply: "Yes, I know that, but I want to know if their actions were morally good," a meaningful question. Under your argument, however, it isn't, for I just asked, "Yes, I know that the majority of Germans thought it was ok, but did the Germans think it was ok?"

  • adam this is the best opponent you have ever had and he held his ground with your play with words. there is no good and evil just different points of views. if the majority of the group thinks it is ok then it is ok. we live in a democratic system if the majority of the group thinks it is ok to kill an unborn baby then it is morally ok. morals change. to the nazis it was moral to kill the jews but it was not moral to the rest of the world thts why we had a world war.

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