Pro Taekwondo, Dong Lee vs Brian McCutcheon (1997) - Parte 1 -

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[83ishgirl]

The "Veteran Voice of the Octagon!" Nice. Good TKD

[Laikmuay]

Ah the announcer Bruce Buffer well before he went to UFC lol

[scarred10]

@ATACXGYMTAEKWONDO sanshou is a rule set for competition,its not a style of kung fu,its chinese kickboxing that allows all kung fu to be pressure tested.However you rarely see anything done in any kungfu style in it except the wrestling ,cung le was a scholarship wrestler in america.Cung never practised any style of kung fu nor shows it in his fights

[ATACXGYMTAEKWONDO]

@scarred10 My fellow martial artist,when you say that Cung Le doesn't do kungfu only san shou...you DO realize that san shou IS a brand of gungfu,right? It's called "sanshou gungfu" or "sanda".Cung Le himself has said so many a time in various interviews.It's in his bio and I'm sure you can Wikipedia it.It's also on his website...sanshou.When he fought K-1 under san shou rules? The commentators mentioned it too.

[scarred10]

@ATACXGYMTAEKWONDO cung lee never did any kung fu,he just trained the sanshou,his style was tkd,kickboxing and college wrestling.Having done ITF tkd since 1984 and wrestled/sub grappling /bjj since 1996 along with it I can tell you that theres no grappling in either WTF or ITF tkd and theres no weapons in either,its completely unarmed.Ive sparred in rings with all types of stylists over the years,tkd ,boxers,thai,sanshou,anyone who wanted.

[ATACXGYMTAEKWONDO]

@scarred10 I see that we disagree fundamentally. TKD's self-defense history proves that it's literally "kickboxing and grappling" with weapons included and an emphasis on kicking.Sir,if it's your opinion that TKD is ineffective? Fine,sir.I practice bjj,judo,etc and I know plenty of wtf guys who can handle themselves well on the street.Perhaps you don't know enough wtf guys? Same with karate,kungfu,etc. As for your assessment of sanda/sanshou? I think Cung Le would disagree,sir.

[La77a]

....and when ITF fighters (who tend to experiment beyond their own discipline a bit more) fight WTF fighters full contact with head punches, they usually win. If you doubt this check out Ukranian, Moldavian, Russian and Polish YT TKD postings for this proof. The main point i'm making is that singular elitism within a martial art or sport in the 21st century is the death knell for that art. If one keeps placing ones head in the sand then that butt sure makes a great target for some kicking.

[La77a]

...one can see the high guard, and more of an application to their body punches, as in Kyokushinkai (which of course was the idea). The WTF (Kukkiwon) has watered it down into what you see today. Old School WTF fighters could quite happily step onto a mat with a Kyokushinkai fighter and if not win, then certainly not look so out of their depth. Today that would not be the case. WTF fighters tend to fight other WTF fighters only in WTF sanctioned competitions...

[La77a]

This is why no one can deny the pedigree of Muay Thai in the ring. It's a pure test of an individuals physical and mental resilience. My personal preference (in TKD) has to be ITF, because even with the semi-contact format, it does give it's fighters a relative credence amongst their martial arts peers and a LOT of ITF stylists have successfully moved into kickboxing and MMA as a natural progression of their cross training. Full respect however to all TKD stylists. Check out old WTF footage...

[La77a]

The continuing dispute between ITF and WTF practitioners is highly tedious. WTF TKD has the olympics to thank for its success otherwise it would have probably been superceded by the ITF and their burgeoning full contact styles currently enjoyed in Eastern Europe and Russia. Without a full contact competition in its repertoire, a martial sport (let's be clear about the difference here) cannot say it can wholly test its athletes in controlled combat.