@plntntvzn. They had great range particularly on the speed balls thrown deep or on the side. Their trouble was the dip and under throws on the sidelines and the post from the likes of Montana.
@plntntvzn: The Broncos drafted Lyle in the 9th round in 1973, but he apparently didn't get too far with them. I don't know how he got to the Colts four years later.
@sptrfn To add to your point, Glenn Blackwood, a tweener? Glenn was a tough, competitive athlete who would knock the eyebrows off anyone who roamed into his area of responsibility, but at 6'0", 186 was better suited to FS than SS. Yet, without great range or cover ability...I still say Glenn's excellent awareness & blasting everything that moved made him a strength, and Lyle's smarts & hard-hitting made him a strength as well. Both Blackwoods had a superb feel for the game.
@sptrfn You're right about Blackwoods, except Lyle left that Raiders-Colts playoff game. Replacement was #47 Tim Baylor who got turned around on that Ghost-to-the-Post play. Older Lyle was savvy & tough & smart, but by early 1980s, athletic skills were eroding. Younger Glenn covered up lack of speed with great feel, excellent awareness & anticipation; Glenn was tough & competitive, & hit with all the force his 188 pounds could muster but Glenn did NOT have great range or coverage ability
@plntntvzn: I know that McNeal was good, but I was under the impression that the Blackwood brothers were average. I know that one of them came from the Colts, and was a backup that came in during that 1977 playoff game for an injured teammate.
@sptrfn I'm sorry, I cannot agree to this,though I'm alone. In SB 17, it would be the last game the Killer Bees played as a strength of the team (having played at that level for 6 years). I think the Dolphins defense outplayed Washington's offense in SB 17 and the only reason Washington was still in the game in the 4th quarter was because of David Woodley. As for Miami's secondary, older Lyle Blackwood was decent, but younger Glenn was great. CBs Don McNeal & Gerald Small were better than good.
@plntntvzn: Miami's whole defense was outmuscled by the Hogs in the fourth quarter. That defense was solid, but vulnerable. Duhe, Betters, Baumhower, and Bokamper were pretty good (I don't know how good Larry Gordon was), but that team had an iffy secondary. The Blackwood brothers were decent, but not great.
While it appears @ 0:15 as though Dan Dierdorf prevented him from recovering fumble, @ 0:31-34 is Miami LB #58 Kim Bokamper, who had fine speed & some quickness and was a speedy upfield player. He called on quickness & leverage to do the job. He had to because Bokamper could be overpowered at the point of attack, had trouble getting off blocks, kicked the ball way @ 0:09, and failed to outmuscle Joe Theismann for an INT TD that would have given Miami an 11-point lead late in Super Bowl 17.
@plntntvzn. They had great range particularly on the speed balls thrown deep or on the side. Their trouble was the dip and under throws on the sidelines and the post from the likes of Montana.
Ariamaluum 1 month ago
@sptrfn With his kinds of strengths and weaknesses, Lyle Blackwood was not going to be an overnight success.
plntntvzn 3 months ago
@plntntvzn: The Broncos drafted Lyle in the 9th round in 1973, but he apparently didn't get too far with them. I don't know how he got to the Colts four years later.
sptrfn 3 months ago
@sptrfn To add to your point, Glenn Blackwood, a tweener? Glenn was a tough, competitive athlete who would knock the eyebrows off anyone who roamed into his area of responsibility, but at 6'0", 186 was better suited to FS than SS. Yet, without great range or cover ability...I still say Glenn's excellent awareness & blasting everything that moved made him a strength, and Lyle's smarts & hard-hitting made him a strength as well. Both Blackwoods had a superb feel for the game.
plntntvzn 3 months ago
@sptrfn You're right about Blackwoods, except Lyle left that Raiders-Colts playoff game. Replacement was #47 Tim Baylor who got turned around on that Ghost-to-the-Post play. Older Lyle was savvy & tough & smart, but by early 1980s, athletic skills were eroding. Younger Glenn covered up lack of speed with great feel, excellent awareness & anticipation; Glenn was tough & competitive, & hit with all the force his 188 pounds could muster but Glenn did NOT have great range or coverage ability
plntntvzn 3 months ago
@plntntvzn: I know that McNeal was good, but I was under the impression that the Blackwood brothers were average. I know that one of them came from the Colts, and was a backup that came in during that 1977 playoff game for an injured teammate.
sptrfn 3 months ago
@sptrfn I'm sorry, I cannot agree to this,though I'm alone. In SB 17, it would be the last game the Killer Bees played as a strength of the team (having played at that level for 6 years). I think the Dolphins defense outplayed Washington's offense in SB 17 and the only reason Washington was still in the game in the 4th quarter was because of David Woodley. As for Miami's secondary, older Lyle Blackwood was decent, but younger Glenn was great. CBs Don McNeal & Gerald Small were better than good.
plntntvzn 3 months ago
@plntntvzn: Miami's whole defense was outmuscled by the Hogs in the fourth quarter. That defense was solid, but vulnerable. Duhe, Betters, Baumhower, and Bokamper were pretty good (I don't know how good Larry Gordon was), but that team had an iffy secondary. The Blackwood brothers were decent, but not great.
sptrfn 3 months ago
While it appears @ 0:15 as though Dan Dierdorf prevented him from recovering fumble, @ 0:31-34 is Miami LB #58 Kim Bokamper, who had fine speed & some quickness and was a speedy upfield player. He called on quickness & leverage to do the job. He had to because Bokamper could be overpowered at the point of attack, had trouble getting off blocks, kicked the ball way @ 0:09, and failed to outmuscle Joe Theismann for an INT TD that would have given Miami an 11-point lead late in Super Bowl 17.
plntntvzn 5 months ago
This was @ the Orange Bowl in Miami. In 1978 the Cards wore white in every home game.
InDenverSoon 5 months ago