Peter Kropotkin - Representative Government and Wages

Russian anarchist Peter Kropotkin on Representative Government and Wages

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[chrispollock]

everyone who seeks to socially engineer society into collectivist society is scum

[Menace3434]

@chrispollock I think you have anarchists confused, anarchists never tried forcing nobody into something in fact anarchists were the first anti authoritarians in history , beginning with Bakunin's critique of Marx within the fist international, please i know its hard but at least read sometimes you got Kropotkin confused with Stalin or Lenin i think. That reminds me, anarchists were also the first official "anti communists". We destroyed our own movements just to not be social engineers ;)

[ZYKLONBKILLSHITLER]

Anarchist Communism :-)

[MagnitudePerson]

What a awesome man/individual!

Long live Peter Kropotkin. Happy birthday! fuck Scarcity, wage slavery!

[Onepretentiousdude]

@Menace3434

Well, Marx was not really authoritarian either. Anarchism and communism are pretty much the same thing with just different methods of attaining it, but Marx never said whether you need to do it the Russian way or the Spanish way.

[chrispollock]

@mykebulvai if you are a leftist, your arguments are bogus. leftists are thieves, weaklings or economic illiterates masquerading as champions of ethics and sound economics. anarchist or communist, you are all the same in your misguided rejection of free market republican society

[UberVersatile]

Please the robot voice sucks. Dude a mic is 20 dollars or something. Please get one.

[mykebulvai]

@chrispollock . My assertion is that you just got owned by the other guy, and the other guy, and the other guy before him. My argument has just about as much substance and weight as your argument.

[agapeiron]

@chrispollock An argument is not supported by simply asserting that it is true. By that logic I could say, a dog is a rabbit, and then by simply asserting that what I said was true, could assume that people take seriously the idea that a dog is a rabbit. Then I could say, well, you are just naive and have a lot to learn about how dogs really are rabbits.

But I would be a self-absorbed idiot to do so and would not actually be saying anything meaningful.

[chrispollock]

@agapeiron the assertions i stated are true. if you don't think people are greedy and self interested, you are naiive and have alot to learn.

[agapeiron]

@chrispollock I asked you to support an assertion; you replied with a series of more assertions.

When you want to actually make an argument, let me know.

[chrispollock]

@agapeiron groups don't exist. individuals acting for common self interest exist. so all action is greed based. to form societies that claim to be "selfless" is stupidity

[agapeiron]

@chrispollock How do you support that greed is the primary directive of all social behavior?

And just out of curiosity-- Don't you get tired of squeezing out little turds of half-baked, misanthropic, ideological fabulism?

[chrispollock]

@Menace3434 it's the primary nature. we start as individuals and then associate as we see fit. human nature isn't limitless, it's predictable and simple. individuals are self interested, groups are just individuals pursuing mutual self interests. sure love exists. but greed is the primary directive and any time you pretend a society can be both free and prosperous without respecting the self interest of individuals to pursue their own goals without a group dominating them, you fool yourself.