Theistic Evolution: a Response to William Lane Craig

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B-quakWthY

Why Intelligent Design Fails:
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Intelligent-Design-Fails-Creationism/dp/0813538726/...

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[mechanicmike69]

All anyone has to do is see an animal react to noise or movement in the woods and watch it assume something is there, something invisible to be wary of. Some unusual invisible force that must be respected and scared of, and how easily this assumption can be extrapolated into an all mighty invisible being at the cause of all things unknown by sentient beings. Belief in god is proof of evolution.

[TheWanderingPrimate]

"Dr." Craig has a PhD in philosophy - not exactly sufficient qualification to enter into any serious scientific debate. And he shoots himself in the foot pretty much right off the bat in his video when he starts with how "improbable" evolution is - diving haphazardly into Hoyle's fallacy, as a delusional crowd cheers on.

Anyway, kudos for the video. You give a nice background synopsis and a good argument. It's definitely vital that we challenge such charlatans at every turn.

[dkthg]

It amazes me that in the 21st century, people like WLC still exist.

[000042229]

You just wasted 8 minutes of my life. If you have nothing intelligent to say, don't. Somebody like you who probably has some school homework still to do, shouldn't be challenging somebody like William Lane Craig. Well, unless you want to make publicly fool of yourself.

[lxAgnosticxl]

WLC doesn't know that micro & macro evolution is or what natural selection is.

[chilledkirby]

1:44 "By chance alone" ugh... I'm not gonna bother refuting that argument.

[itsjustameme]

Such a void demonstrably does not exist. Not only do we have fossils that shows intermediary species (I can give examples), but we also have several types of DNA evidence, we also have good reproducible lab experiments as well as observed speciation in the wild. Evolution is a well proven fact.

And no - the only times I have heard biologists use the terms micro and macro evolution is when they refute the separation between the two.

[23045678]

@itsjustameme yes, but your kilometer example does not apply hear, it is accepted that their is micro and macro evolution, and i stated the difference between them. look up even atheist philosopher's and scientis's they will talk about micro and macro as well, using your kilometer example. micro would mean that beyond 100 kilometers, their would be a void which has no ground and therefore cannot be traversed, you would need ground to be thier to continue

[itsjustameme]

@23045678

He obviously doesn't. And since he has as you put it "been in the business" I can only conclude that he is deliberately misrepresenting a scientific theory.

So far as I know there is no one working with evolutionary biology who use the terms micro and macro evolution. It is a made-up word. The difference between micro and macro evolution as far as I'm concerned is the time you give it to cook. In step may be just 1 meter - but then 1000 ads up to a kilometer.

[23045678]

@itsjustameme No he knows plenty about it, hes been inn the business for years, these mutations we get are not part of macro evolution, only micro, but micro evolution can NOT add up to macro as ALL micro evolution mutations are within the data the genome already posses, in order for macro evolution to Occam, a mutation outside of the cells data would have to happen, and no such mutation has ever been documented. and macro is needed for Darwinian evolution.