@MrNixity No. It was a second comment to "networkdeath".
For whatever reason a comment that I appended to my own comment to another ended up to you. It showed up right when I first posted it, but it has changed.
@pine829 i don't recall arguing ever that the US is morally virtuous all i have ever maintained is that the US regime is not AS EVIL as the German fascist regime.
What I see, time and again is that the "winner" in a war judges themselves by their rhetoric. Morality degenerates into rationalization that there was only a single course of action that was thrust upon them thereby creating an imperative. The results of this action is then blamed entirely on the vanquished. This is intellectually sloppy and had within it the seeds to repeat the process.
The "spine" you talk about is the backbone to look at the whole truth, and yourself.
@networkdeath I will. Please temper your insults, you do not know me. I have seen such death personally.
Do you believe that "morality" is judged on words or stated intention or do you believe that "morality" is established by results? Or is it based on something else completely different.
For example, we have killed several million Iraqi, a large percentage who were children, based on "words" that ended up being lies.
@MrNixity With all respect, the US engaged in terrorist bombing of a civilian population in Germany and Japan, starved the German army after the war, dropped several atomic weapons on a civilian population.
Since that war, the US has supported dictators literally all over the planet including Pol Pot, Batista, Chiang Kai-shek, Somoza, Pinnochet, Saddam, the Shah of Iran, starved a million Iraqi children as part of an embargo and many others.
@pine829 Not that you will, but would you please read "Moral Combat" by Michael Burleigh, start to finish? I surmise that you won't because folks like you always take the easiest way out in life, comfortably equivocating all things difficult because you never will once stand up for anything. You remove INTENT from the political argument, and then pat your own spineless back as morally superior. Immerse yourself in that book and you just might grow a bit.
Can someone help me find where Franklin D. Roosevelt said "Hitler built a fortress around Europe, but he forgot to put a roof on it" i need the year speech or document i have looking for a long time just need some help thanks!
@MrNixity No. It was a second comment to "networkdeath".
For whatever reason a comment that I appended to my own comment to another ended up to you. It showed up right when I first posted it, but it has changed.
pine829 3 hours ago
@pine829 i don't recall arguing ever that the US is morally virtuous all i have ever maintained is that the US regime is not AS EVIL as the German fascist regime.
MrNixity 3 hours ago
@pine829 is this a reply to my comment?
MrNixity 3 hours ago
What I see, time and again is that the "winner" in a war judges themselves by their rhetoric. Morality degenerates into rationalization that there was only a single course of action that was thrust upon them thereby creating an imperative. The results of this action is then blamed entirely on the vanquished. This is intellectually sloppy and had within it the seeds to repeat the process.
The "spine" you talk about is the backbone to look at the whole truth, and yourself.
pine829 3 hours ago
@networkdeath I will. Please temper your insults, you do not know me. I have seen such death personally.
Do you believe that "morality" is judged on words or stated intention or do you believe that "morality" is established by results? Or is it based on something else completely different.
For example, we have killed several million Iraqi, a large percentage who were children, based on "words" that ended up being lies.
In your calculus is this "moral"?
pine829 3 hours ago
@MrNixity With all respect, the US engaged in terrorist bombing of a civilian population in Germany and Japan, starved the German army after the war, dropped several atomic weapons on a civilian population.
Since that war, the US has supported dictators literally all over the planet including Pol Pot, Batista, Chiang Kai-shek, Somoza, Pinnochet, Saddam, the Shah of Iran, starved a million Iraqi children as part of an embargo and many others.
Do some research yourself.
pine829 3 hours ago
@pine829 Not that you will, but would you please read "Moral Combat" by Michael Burleigh, start to finish? I surmise that you won't because folks like you always take the easiest way out in life, comfortably equivocating all things difficult because you never will once stand up for anything. You remove INTENT from the political argument, and then pat your own spineless back as morally superior. Immerse yourself in that book and you just might grow a bit.
networkdeath 13 hours ago
Can someone help me find where Franklin D. Roosevelt said "Hitler built a fortress around Europe, but he forgot to put a roof on it" i need the year speech or document i have looking for a long time just need some help thanks!
kookopandamn 1 week ago