Waterboarding Argument Exposed-Liberals Suck!

Water cooler talk on enhanced interrogations on how stupid it is that we can't water board but it is okay to splatter Osama Bin Laden's brains all over the place. The women is a liberal and the man exposes her ridiculous liberal thinking as confused and b

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[jsentoch]

spfccsmft :Wow! I think you're right. Thank you for finally identifying the book I rad so many years ago. TY, TY, TY!

[spfccsmft]

I think the book you read once is called Three Tales of My Father's Dragon.

[spfccsmft]

My main point is that this is not a simple issue. As far as I can see, it does no good to name-call or label those we disagree with. The TV-induced mentality of "liberals" vs "conservatives" is what really sucks. The world is not a cable news split-screen.

[spfccsmft]

Lastly, I don't think it was okay to splatter Osama Bin Laden's brains all over the place. I think every effort should have been made to bring him to trial. I don't think this was ever the intention of the American government or their allies. I think it would have proved a difficult task for them to try to prove a connection between him and 9/11, or even the existence of a structured terror organization named Al Qaeda of which he was the leader, & it all would've raised some awkward questions.

[spfccsmft]

Obama ordered the targeted killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen living in Yemen who "counterterrorism officials say...is an operative of Al Qaeda." No evidence presented, no indictment, no conviction, no request for extradition, just an order for the killing of an American citizen.

[spfccsmft]

Another interrogator was quoted as saying, "Torture does not save lives. Our enemies use it as a recruiting tool. Foreign fighters came to Iraq because of torture and abuse and cost us hundreds if not thousands of American lives."

Suspects are captured and detained indefinitely without ever being convicted or even charged with a crime. As if it's not bad enough that it happens to foreigners, it could also happen to American citizens. In fact, the Obama Administration has taken things further.

[spfccsmft]

As for effectiveness, if you listen to interrogators' accounts instead of just politicians', there are cases where torture caused suspects to stop cooperating. For example, the Bush Administration and some members of the media used bin Laden associate Abu Zubayda's case as a success story, even though Ali Soufan, one of his interrogators, says Zubayda gave up all useful information before the harsh techniques began, and ceased to do so once they did.

[spfccsmft]

You have to understand that 'enhanced interrogation' does not just include water boarding. Detainees have been hung upside down, beaten, drenched in water and left outside to freeze, among other things. These practices have led to the deaths of over 100 detainees, nearly all convicted of NO crime, so this notion that "they're terrorists, they deserve it" really isn't well founded.

[hopaloop]

@minnesotastategop have you watched John Perkins Confessions of an economic hitman. worth a watch, made me look at things from a different angle.

[minnesotastategop]

Libreals are fucking traitors.