History channel - Engineering an Empire - Greek Byzantium 1/5

The Empire preserved Romano-Hellenistic traditions,[6] but due to the increasing predominance of the Greek language, it was usually known to most of its western and northern contemporaries as the Empire of the Greeks.[n 3] The use of the term Empire of the Greeks (Latin: Imperium Graecorum) in the West to refer to the Eastern Roman Empire also implied a rejection of the empire's claim to be the Roman Empire. The claims of the Eastern Roman Empire to Roman inheritance had been actively contested in the West at the time of the Roman Empress Irene of Athens, due to the coronation of Charlemagne as Holy Roman Emperor year 800, by Pope Leo III, who needing help against enemies in Rome, saw the throne of the Roman Empire as vacant (lacking a male occupant). Whenever the Popes or the rulers of the West made use of the name Roman to refer to the eastern Roman Emperors, they preferred the term Imperator Romaniæ instead of Imperator Romanorum, a title that Westerners maintained applied only to Charlemagne and his successors.

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[Justinian43]

@Heyprinny the romans and byzantine were the same,but i agree, google byzantium 1200, a site filled with reconstructions of the byzantine constantinople

[Justinian43]

@NeutralNegotiator civilizations change, especially after centuries... the byzantine tag is but a name to deprive the true romans from the title, given to the german empire (holy roman empire) However, it was a continuation of the roman empire, it was the roman empire!

[NeutralNegotiator]

@nikat78 Renaissance because they believed that for the first time after ancient Greece,the spirit became free again to advance.

But Byzantium was not a place of darkness,it had its bad periods but it was never an obstacle to the human mind and sciences.And that is why it lasted a millenium,making almost every nation of today,especially USA,look like a paranthesis in history...

[NeutralNegotiator]

@nikat78 That is when it started for the byzantine world,but in face there was no bright ages in europe yet.In 1453,when byzantium fell,the scolars that fled to europe told the natives there about something called "civilization".That is when europe understood how shitty it was,and named those years dark ages.Still,it would take a couple of centuries to instill into them the basic principles,but when they finally learned they desided to call it the renaissance period.

[NeutralNegotiator]

@trilobright The byzantine empire had little to do with roman empire.No matter how much you like to see it as the eastern roman empire,this was true only until about 450 ac.After that,it took its own way as a state.

[NielsJB]

@uafchris It's so negative.

Roman emperor = dictator

Non christian = pagan

... Come on is there some neutrality in this documentary

[Heyprinny]

Does anyone here find it funny that the Byzantine engineering documentary had more to do with the engineering of the Romans?

[uafchris]

Americans make terrible documentaries 

[panosmel97]

@crazymuthaphukr thats 1 angy american we have here :D dont care what happens to the french but take good care of my city

[nikat78]

Hmm, it flourished during the Dark Ages. The fact is that the Dark Ages in the greek-byzantine world started in 1453 a.d.