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Uploaded by on Apr 28, 2009

This is my video response to zkueker88 on why Peter is the Rock in Matthew 16:18.

The link to his video is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Y26qPWzTg

Link to the article that is verbatim to his video:
http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/roman-catholicism/peter-rock-which-ch...

References to Protestant Scholars and Commentators who agree with the Catholic Position:

Matthew Black and H.H. Rowley, eds., Peake's Commentary on the Bible (London: Thomas Nelson, 1972), 787.

William Kendriksen, New Testament Commentary: Exposition on the Gospel According to Matthew, (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 1973), 647.

J. Meyendorff, A. Schmemann, N. Afanassiet, and N. Koulomzine, The Primacy of Peter, (Aylesbury, Bucks, UK: The Faith Press, 1973), 14 and 28.

Raymond E. Brown, Karl P.Donfried and John Reumann, eds., Peter in the New Testament, (Minneapolis, MN: Augsburg; New York: Paulist: 1973), 2.

Harold H.P. Dressler, in D.A. Carson, ed., Biblical Interpretation and Church Text and Context, (Flemington Markes, NSW: Paternoster Press, 1984), 58 and 60.

Craig S. Keener, The IVP Bible Background Commentary New Testament, (Downer's Grove, IL: Intervarsity Press, 1993), 90.

Frank E. Gaebelin, ed., The Expositor's Bible Commentary: Volume 8 (Matthew, Mark, Luke), (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1984), 368.

Donald A. Carson III, Matthew, in Kenneth L., Barker and John Kohlenberger, eds., Zondervan NIV Bible Commentary - New Testament, vol. 2, (Grand Rapids MI: Zondervan, 1994) 78.

Robert Jamieson, Andrew Robert Fausset, and David Brown, One Volume Commentary, (Grand Rapids, MI: Associated Publishers, n.d. [197?], 47-48.

and many more, just contact me if you would like to know.

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  • I am ashamed to see my fellow Protestants using the old petros petra argument even though our best scholars affirm the terms are interchangeable in the early Greek literature and that Peter was indeed being referred to as the rock linguistically. The debate is not whether or not Peter is first rock here. The debate is, what does that mean? I do not have room nor the time to go into it but yes, fellow Protestants, please stop using such arguments. Grant to them that Peter is the rock here.

  • @KeithTruth

    I really do appreciate your honesty, its very refreshing. I know we may disagree with what it means for Peter to be the rock, but that is a wholly different debate. I think some people just use anything, even if they know its wrong, to disprove a point. It's sort of like those people who deny that Peter was ever in Rome, even though there is very good attestation for this in the early Church. God Bless you Keith.

  • zack knows the bible like a Elton John like is straight not very much

  • The answer is in the context: Jesus was AFFIRMING the TRUTH of what Peter had previously CONFESSED, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God". BELIEVERS in the Lord Jesus Christ form HIS CHURCH. Ergo, the ROCK of TRUTH: "That if thou shalt CONFESS with thy mouth, the LORD (Christ, Son of God) Jesus, and shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved." AFFIRMING this TRUTH, places the individual in HIS CHURCH. "Semantics" is just a ruse.

  • @JONAH222NCSGAZ

    Right, its precisely because Peter confessed that Jesus is the Son of the Living God that Jesus build the Church on HIM. Confessions come from confessors.

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  • You can also ask them to prayerfully read the prophesy which this passage in Matthew fulfills - Isaiah 22:20-24. After they understand the message in Isaiah, the whole context of Matthew becomes even more clear. Also, the Catholic Church is the only Church that can trace a legitimate teaching authority back to Christ, and that is through the succession of Popes. All Protestant denominations can only be traced to a man who lived in the 1500s. Keep up the good work. Peace bro.

  • The fact that this matter has to be debated shows the absolute desperate denial of Peter as the rock for protestants. Quite simply Jesus says "you are rock and on this rock." Plain and simple language logic indicates that that the object matter is the same. In addition, every time God renames someone it indicates a change in destiny. (Simon Peter, Jacob Israel, Abram Abraham). Plus if the petros/petras argument was so, then Christ is saying He is a woman. Silly.

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  • Not only does Mt. 16:18 does it state Jesus called Simon 'Peter', but also John 1:42 says that Jesus called him 'Cephas' (which meant Peter), An as we know, Cephas is the aramaic word for 'rock'. Clearly the Protestants are bad interpreters of text.

  • The New Testament was written in Koine Greek—an entirely different dialect. In Koine Greek, both petros and petra simply meant "rock." the words petros and petra were synonyms in first century Greek. They meant "small stone" and "large rock" in some ancient Greek poetry, centuries before the time of Christ, but that distinction had disappeared from the language by the time Matthew’s Gospel was rendered in Greek.

  • @JONAH222NCSGAZ how could jesus say i will give U the keys to kingdom of heaven and be talking about himself. This vidieo just trys to confuse people. However I believe the church of god is any church that baptizes in the father son and holy spirit, belives in jesus as lord and savior and keeps the commandments and does the appointed works of jesus.

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