The Shugden Group

New Kadampa Tradition; a creepy, money-grabbing cult

It's on page 419 in the copy I'm looking at right now, some editions are slightly longer or shorter than others but its in the chapter on developing boddhichitta. Also take a look at the chapter on Tranquil abiding, Geshe-la takes a prety unfavourable view of the chinese invasion there too. Your're argument " you have no proofs either that NKT are not sponsored by China ;-) " is ridiculous, try that in a court of law and see how far you get. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

This is correct, the burden to proof if NKT has connection with Chinese is on me, however, I never claimed that, I said only there are reasons why this could be. Now with respect to your claim of a Anti-China stance, I made my point: Geshe-la only mentions that Buddhism died in Tibet because he also claims it died in India, hence he is the last true upholder of Buddhism in the West and world wide. This is the key to understand NKT and its war, a person with a mission who thinks he is special....

fuck you all shungden groups

You´re so brainwashed ,Floatinhippos ,that you´re incapable of logical thinking. You kept repeating that HHDL is just a monk, that the Ganden Tripa is the only authority. But we know that (the previous) Ganden Tripa supported the ban.
You call HHDL a hypocrite and you call the men behind the triple murder your "brothers".

Floatinghippos.
I tried to discuss the Shugden issue with you but it failed. When you realised that you couldn´t indoctrinate me you blocked me. You also trivialised the triple murder in Dharamsala 1997... I think you have a problem.

You apply very tricky means DarkLord! One must see this claim in context of NKT because as said in the British press too: Kelsang tells his followers he believes Buddhism in Tibet is dead because of the Chinese occupation AND that it has already died in India!!! If he is right, then only by him (the third Buddha) or NKT there is a future of Tibetan Buddhism! So this so-called Anti-China stance is in reality a propaganda mean of the organisation/Geshe-la to bind people to the group. Trick failed

Yes, HHDL says that Shugden is a very harmful practice like many other Buddhist masters from all Tibetan Buddhist school say. They say it is harmful because it promotes sectarianism, which is against the spirit of the Dharma, and because Shugden is seen as more important than the Buddha by many worshippers, though Shugden is just a spirit Worshipping spirits and making it central practice is no Buddhist attitude. This is not black-and-white. HHDL blamed his own ignorance for having practised it.