This is a reply video to the startling unsatisfactory response given by patrickdunnevant to an original video by Marshall Brain, aka GIIVideo.
I look at pdunn's (what a ridiculous nickname) respon...
This is a reply video to the startling unsatisfactory response given by patrickdunnevant to an original video by Marshall Brain, aka GIIVideo.
I look at pdunn's (what a ridiculous nickname) response and expose just how illogical, incomplete and crass it appears from the perspective of a skeptic.
Sorry about the audio quality but it was cobbled together from multiple sources and I am too much of a newb to fix it. Also the reason for this video was because of a comment war between pdunn and I, I just wanted to express my argument without being forced into 500 character replies.
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Actually, there are a number of medical ailments that can cause deafness for an extended amount of time due to brain pressure.
In this antecdotal evidence you submit (which does not hold weight in a philisophical or scientific realm), was the woman being treated by a physician? Was she in a hospital?
Furthermore, the relativity to prayer does not prove anything. If I turn on a light switch and then chronic pain in my back disappears, it would be foolish to praise the light switch.
I believe that in most cases, God allows free will to go uninhibited. I would first attribute the two nuclear disasters being prevented to the work of our intelligence agencies before I would attribute it to God.
Yes, it WOULD have to be every instance of evil, according to your own definition of what evil is. God would have to completely remove all ability to choose incorrectly, since evil is the result of "action or inaction" by human beings.
Statement 1 is completely ridiculous. It is clear that Keip is referencing an act of god to stop these bombs, not the work of government officials. this is a Red Herring.
Furthermore, statement 2 is flawed as well. There is no correlation between taking away the choices that are divided by free will and removing suffering, your hell not withstanding.
You believe in an ultimate moral judgment of some form, I assume I am safe in that assertation. Therefore, the ultimate end for you is eternal bliss or suffering, assuming that you believe in the Puritanical, fire-and-brimstone hell. So there is, in your belief, an ultimate and infinite consequence for your actions.
Therefore the sort of karma-like suffering that you speak of bears no real weight within your religion. Only one's action, and possibly thoughts, count.
Therefore, human suffering is completely useless in your mindset. God could still have all of the choices be maintained with the same ramifications eternally, yet deprive humans of the suffering in their earthly form.
Basically, allowing suffering past consequences of an action is an unecessary thing and anyone who conciously allows unecessary suffering that they could prevent would be inherently evil by the standards of your religion.
Your definition begs the question of whether God has "justification," and also still avoids the point that you commit grevious "inaction" every day that causes children to starve to death. So you're evil.
Since you yourself arrived at your concept of morality, then it is individually subjective, and of course it then it is an admission of personal preference. And you have no right to tell ME anything is wrong without qualifying it by saying, "in my opinion."
This is inherently fallacious as it is a strawman argument for athiestic morals.
Athiests believe that the systems of morals that govern the ethical behavior of a society are a survival instinct.
The reasoning behind this is simple, morals and ethics are developed by the species, not just humans, that serve the purpose of making the rate of survival greater. So this is subjective on a global scale but it is not subjective on a personal scale.
Furthermore, you would like to imply that God dictates morals for humans and that those are the "universal" standard for mankind to follow.
A.) If there is a universal moral code, please explain the evolution of christian morals throughout time. If you need clarification on this with specific example, then please let me know.
B.) Please explain why there are other creatures that actions are inherently dictated by such pillars as "thou shall not kill".
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In this antecdotal evidence you submit (which does not hold weight in a philisophical or scientific realm), was the woman being treated by a physician? Was she in a hospital?
Furthermore, the relativity to prayer does not prove anything. If I turn on a light switch and then chronic pain in my back disappears, it would be foolish to praise the light switch.
Yes, it WOULD have to be every instance of evil, according to your own definition of what evil is. God would have to completely remove all ability to choose incorrectly, since evil is the result of "action or inaction" by human beings.
Call me a troll if it makes you feel better.
Furthermore, statement 2 is flawed as well. There is no correlation between taking away the choices that are divided by free will and removing suffering, your hell not withstanding.
Therefore the sort of karma-like suffering that you speak of bears no real weight within your religion. Only one's action, and possibly thoughts, count.
Basically, allowing suffering past consequences of an action is an unecessary thing and anyone who conciously allows unecessary suffering that they could prevent would be inherently evil by the standards of your religion.
Since you yourself arrived at your concept of morality, then it is individually subjective, and of course it then it is an admission of personal preference. And you have no right to tell ME anything is wrong without qualifying it by saying, "in my opinion."
"We all know?" Who's that, exactly?
Athiests believe that the systems of morals that govern the ethical behavior of a society are a survival instinct.
The reasoning behind this is simple, morals and ethics are developed by the species, not just humans, that serve the purpose of making the rate of survival greater. So this is subjective on a global scale but it is not subjective on a personal scale.
A.) If there is a universal moral code, please explain the evolution of christian morals throughout time. If you need clarification on this with specific example, then please let me know.
B.) Please explain why there are other creatures that actions are inherently dictated by such pillars as "thou shall not kill".