Sorry about the wind noise.
The 'mystery' features within a number of mystical traditions as a site of wonder and potential, and here I am choosing to associate it with the more mundane idea of 'the unknown'. The amount of knowledge that we are not yet in possession of is vast, although this vastness comes in two different flavours. One Unknown is finitie and bounded, so that the more we know the less there is that is unknown. The other unknown is more realistic, and recognises the unknown as that which exists outside the boundary of the known, and as the amount of knowledge increases so the boundary becomes longer and longer, and the amount of Unknownness grows to match that boundary.
Koch Snowflake - http://mathworld.wolfram.com/KochSnowflake.html
i want to hear what you are saying !
lasercat10cc 1 year ago
@almafarag
and of course we could also imagine a metaphoric process taking place when there's a combination of saw-teeth from neighbouring triangles and that's where understanding is mobilized,
me toying with images, don't ask how I link this to self-reflection, it's just a blind leap, committing my thought to your silent eyes to devour :)
almafarag 1 year ago
Grt vid Fred, briefly what occurs to me right now is that perhaps there is some possibility in coupling the idea of "reflection" with the granular involution of knowledge you talk about, where self-reflexion is not a vehicle of transcendence but rather of understanding,
on second mindless thought, stretching the Koch metaphor, I would say that at an actual stage of granularity we could identify a sawtooth with its host triangle in a kind of metonymic way where we utilize shortcuts in cognition
almafarag 1 year ago
@mindDefyButtin ...um...okay.
GodofCider 1 year ago
@GodofCider eternity runs in both directions
mindDefyButtin 1 year ago
@U5312N4M34Y0UTU133 All this "weirdness" on the quantum level indicates to me that there is something fundamental that we still don't get. And what bothers me is people may percieve this as a tiny gap in our knowledge, too me it is something fundamental we still don't know of.
pkingo1 1 year ago
"Pregnant Weirdness"! LOL! There's a phrase just begging to be coined. : )
TheOuroborosWyrm 1 year ago
Which is quite slow, and actually consciousness considers things in a pseudo present, not immediate one. "What just happened?," more than "It's happening," because "happening" usually means a longer duration, to consider long enough periods of "Just happened," that can be measured with a macroscopic awareness.
U5312N4M34Y0UTU133 1 year ago
after this interference. This interference is simply associated with its observation, as it has no other contributions that give explanation.
A guess, (perhaps a better one than mentioning that things don't technically exist, if they are not observed... as this is a psycho-warfare against any defense mechanisms to this), would be that this interference, is what makes flux have any capacity to exist at all. That it is, actualized present, not conscious present.
U5312N4M34Y0UTU133 1 year ago
@pkingo1
Quantum mechanics is an even more infantile field than psychology, even.
It would be senseless to comprehend macroscopic entities as microscopic entities are theorized to exist: higher organizations, invariably lead to higher predictabilities. This is why existence is absolutely considered axiomatic.
And try not to get too boggled by observation determining existence, because it's a psychosis. Remember, there's "interference" that causes something to be at two locations at once...
U5312N4M34Y0UTU133 1 year ago