Stephen Hawking rules out the need for God in the Big Bang
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@budoghost1 Also, physics is a subset of mathematics that is used to describe reality, so eventually when all of the secrets are riddled out, there will be mathematical support.
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@budoghost1 There is no mathematical term for something that doesn't exist. It's a variable in an equation that doesn't work until that variable is removed. If it is a variable that doesn't exist, the equation is the same. The burden of proof also rests on those who believe god exists. Theists must show that god has a hand in the big bang, not the other way around.
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Humans are currently incapable of pondering the existence of God(s), we end up going around in circles e.g. How can anything come into being from absolutely nothing? If there is/are creators, then who or what created the creators.? Are the laws of physics a creation or natural? How, where did the laws come about without a creator? Maybe due to our lack of true perception, the questions are wrong and can not be answered in this form.
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@budoghost1 "Angry against god?" -You've got to be kidding me. Grow the fuck up.
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@operationMONKEYdoctr It is likely that there have been many Big Bangs starting other universes, and that this process is going on even today. Our Big Bang may have started our local universe, but the multiverse has no beginning, as it extends beyond any sense of past, present or future that can be applied to it.
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@proprodigySD Yes that was my point, first of all it is impossible to quantify God and secondly therefore mathematically or in any way demonstratably possible to rule God out from the big bang. It is what is called an assumption, that's it.
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@650sFinnest Yeah I know. Scientific theories and facts aren't exclusive.
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@DaFleegsta remember that we still call evolution a theory but it's been proven and a fact the word theory just sticks around.
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@budoghost1 I think the reason Stephen Hawking and many other physicists don't quantify God is because to have mathematical value, it has to manifest in reality. The mathematical expression of 'c' in E=mc^2 isn't simply a value which was assigned a quantity, it is indeed representative of the speed of light in a vacuum. Gotta prove God exists and demonstrates an objective correlation between himself and mathematical constants before God gets a place in the creation of the universe.
Personally, as someone who is well educated in higher mathematics and physics I have to beg the question; what is the mathematical term for God and how did you exclude it from the big bang? First of all, the problem with calculating what happened shortly after the big bang and before that is that your probabilities become infinite. This is a world of pure mathematics, so there is no proof to back up his belief. Anyone who knows anything about physics knows Stephen is full of shit.
budoghost1 7 months ago 8
there was also space for God when we didn't know what caused lightening, lol..
itzahazylife 2 months ago 2