Cessna 150 Crash KHQZ

News Report Cessna 150 Crash Mesquite 11/24/2007

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• Cessna
• 150
• Crash
• KHQZ

[Alaska170]

I owned a 150 always remember to pack light and take a poop before you fly every pound counts haha

[navamerican]

Many Pilots panic when upset, pull too much on controls and stall, even when a C150 can fly level with 30 flaps. If you Panic Pull, of course, it will stall/spin. The steep turn "seen" its after the spin (wing drops) I saw one like this. A nice 172 undergrossed and all perfect, he stalled it when slightly blinded by sunglare= Pilot Panic Pull. Too many low altitute stalls by Panic Pull.

[TheTodd2u]

People should always practice turning stalls. It would have saved a life in this case.

[dcmiles]

Not sure if he was on approach or landing, but if on take-off I think I may have this right. If he was on approach then i agree with the "Jerk" response below or possibly he thought he was high on approach and dropped an extra 10 degrees (20 is normal for landing) to stepen the glide slope. Then as he got closer he realized he was now below GS and instead of adding power he tried to "Loft it" by adding a bit of back pressure on the yoke. Not good when low, slow, and are dragging flaps.

[dcmiles]

I have flown 150's and they do not like 30 degrees of flaps on takeoff. You can do it even at 40 degrees for short or soft field takeoffs, but the procedure is different. He rotated as normal but at that flap setting, there is not enough power to maintain speed and the plane entered a stall/spin condition.

[dcmiles]

From what I have seen here and read in the report. The pilot was doing touch and gos. He probably had the flaps down during the previous approach and landing. Then, when applying power and retracting flaps he might have not realized at first that the flaps were not moving.

[swpctx]

The NTSB report, which has become final since last time I checked, has more information. Apparently, the flaps were extended about 30 degrees during takeoff and a blown fuse prevented retraction in flight. The airplane was also about 170 lbs overweight. There was no mention on an engine failure, but a witness reported seeing a steep turn, then the nose dropping and a spin developing. No word why the flaps might have been extended at takeoff. If you want to look it up, search on N8301M.

[sk8forlife99]

2 full sized adults...underpowerd cessna 150...(they are all under powerd)...steeep turn....= stalled mwing which = spin...my adx vice to everybody....get a cessna 152 if you want a 150, because it is a wee bit faster,(1-6 knts) and has 10 percent more power.

[swpctx]

This is the airport I fly out of. A 150 with 2 adults generally will not reach 1000' AGL by that point, so it was possibly less. The general agreement around the airport seems to be an engine problem followed by an attempted steep return. People stall/spin quite often trying that, even in simulated emergencies. Runway 35 has better choices (several fields) for a takeoff emergency than 17 (dense woods and houses), but maybe he didn't see one he thought he could make.

[Transam941]

Yeah its too bad. This happened at my airport in December. The guy stalled while turning base to final in IFR conditons. It was a Mooney though. A 150 damn. I could see if weather got him. Ive flown planes similar to the performance of a 150 and when you stall them they are a piece of cake to get out of. Sometimes on a hot day the thermals keep the plane from falling fast in a stall. I like you videos btw. Check my crappy ones out if you can. I fly a 182. I gave you 5 stars to help your rating.