Years before English (and later British) settlers and colonisers went to colonise large swathes of the world, England itself was brutally colonised by foreign troops who held the natives in contempt ..... history has a habit of repeating itself ....
@Schwarzkald I think in Britanny, 1 of the 22 France's lands, they speak a Celtic language and even today Britanny is considered as one of the 6 Celtic nations like Irland, Wales, Scotland...
I think France is a mix country with lot of different influences, but they kept their Gallic soul.
@1234weyman I agree with you, the point i was trying to make is that middle English and modern English are influenced by both Saxon and Norman French rather than either one or the other. Intrestingly when English culture began to emerge after the reign of king John the kings/nobility of England began using old Saxon names like Edward and Edmund.
@MultiAngryguy modern english is only 30 percent old english influenced, around 60 percent of it is latin/french, so they did change english culture and language, also the french colonizers introduced names such as roger richard william etc and changed the architecture
@Schwarzkald the normans married french females and became culturally french, they had two languages norman french and latin, i imagine alot french people would disagree with being considered germanic, your statement is more accurate for the english being a cultural mix of germanic, norse, latin, french
The Normans And French are related they are both Germanic, Normans were from Norway and the French were from Germanic tribes called the Franks, they both understood each other when they spoke their mother tongue. When they enter Gallia what is now France, they fused the Latino-Celtic Languages with their Germanic Language and that's how it became French. to the Northwest is Norman French and to the Southeast is Provencal French. Ce'st la vie.
WHY DONT THESE CUNTS INVADE AND ATTACK WHILE THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF BUILDING A CASTLE ...."OH LET THEM BUILD A MASSIVE CASTLE STRONG HOLD BEFORE WE ATTACK ,YES THATS AN AWESOME IDEA ,MEANS WELL KILL MORE SERFS WHILE WE STAND ON A HILL FAR AWAY "fucking aristicratic pussies..id love to see all the upper class go to fight a war ,the would piss their pants without the real men guarding them...assholes
... In that sense Anglo-Norman England wasnt French or English but a hybrid of the two, although the Norman and early Plantagnet kings main language was French (it wasn't until the reign of Edward III that English became the primary language of the kings of England) English culture had never died out.
CONT... When the Normans and Saxons intermarried and had children they found being 'Anglo-Norman' to be confusing and 'impure', they didn't want to be considered "pure French" because that would mean they would be subjects to the king of France and the norman lords wanted to be seperate to France and be their own country. However they also didn't want to be "pure English" either because that would mean they would lose their legitimate claims to their French territories....
Norman England is confusing because it was neither English nor French. When the Normans conquered England they replaced the Saxon lords with Norman ones, however the commoners and the majority of England still spoke English and William the conqueror knew that he wouldn't be able to convert England towards French culture. Instead the Norman lords of England decided to edapt to English culture (William tried to learn English but was too busy in Normandy to learn it properly). CONT...
@Schwarzkald I think in Britanny, 1 of the 22 France's lands, they speak a Celtic language and even today Britanny is considered as one of the 6 Celtic nations like Irland, Wales, Scotland...
I think France is a mix country with lot of different influences, but they kept their Gallic soul.
norskasbj1 1 month ago
@1234weyman I agree with you, the point i was trying to make is that middle English and modern English are influenced by both Saxon and Norman French rather than either one or the other. Intrestingly when English culture began to emerge after the reign of king John the kings/nobility of England began using old Saxon names like Edward and Edmund.
MultiAngryguy 1 month ago
@MultiAngryguy modern english is only 30 percent old english influenced, around 60 percent of it is latin/french, so they did change english culture and language, also the french colonizers introduced names such as roger richard william etc and changed the architecture
1234weyman 1 month ago
@Schwarzkald the normans married french females and became culturally french, they had two languages norman french and latin, i imagine alot french people would disagree with being considered germanic, your statement is more accurate for the english being a cultural mix of germanic, norse, latin, french
1234weyman 1 month ago
The Normans And French are related they are both Germanic, Normans were from Norway and the French were from Germanic tribes called the Franks, they both understood each other when they spoke their mother tongue. When they enter Gallia what is now France, they fused the Latino-Celtic Languages with their Germanic Language and that's how it became French. to the Northwest is Norman French and to the Southeast is Provencal French. Ce'st la vie.
Schwarzkald 1 month ago
WHY DONT THESE CUNTS INVADE AND ATTACK WHILE THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF BUILDING A CASTLE ...."OH LET THEM BUILD A MASSIVE CASTLE STRONG HOLD BEFORE WE ATTACK ,YES THATS AN AWESOME IDEA ,MEANS WELL KILL MORE SERFS WHILE WE STAND ON A HILL FAR AWAY "fucking aristicratic pussies..id love to see all the upper class go to fight a war ,the would piss their pants without the real men guarding them...assholes
reksub10 3 months ago
... In that sense Anglo-Norman England wasnt French or English but a hybrid of the two, although the Norman and early Plantagnet kings main language was French (it wasn't until the reign of Edward III that English became the primary language of the kings of England) English culture had never died out.
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
CONT... When the Normans and Saxons intermarried and had children they found being 'Anglo-Norman' to be confusing and 'impure', they didn't want to be considered "pure French" because that would mean they would be subjects to the king of France and the norman lords wanted to be seperate to France and be their own country. However they also didn't want to be "pure English" either because that would mean they would lose their legitimate claims to their French territories....
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
Norman England is confusing because it was neither English nor French. When the Normans conquered England they replaced the Saxon lords with Norman ones, however the commoners and the majority of England still spoke English and William the conqueror knew that he wouldn't be able to convert England towards French culture. Instead the Norman lords of England decided to edapt to English culture (William tried to learn English but was too busy in Normandy to learn it properly). CONT...
MultiAngryguy 3 months ago
@Aenglaland you idiot the Normans were from mainly Scandinavia and Saxony learn some history
legomyeggo713 6 months ago