What do we mean by "Walking On A Loose Leash"?
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ChillyAndClover is either misinformed or is simply trying to stir up the dog trainers amongst us. Don't even feed him. OBVIOUSLY a prong collar is a must for training a strong energetic dog. (Unless ChillyAndClover is using an ecollar instead). Try training a chow not to kill a cat using treats... Hope you have a good supply of cats on hand.
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If you know anything about domestic animals, then you would know that they are in need of guidance and correction just as a small child for their own safety. What is cruel are those who neglect training their pets leading them to abuse for destructive behavior and losing their unruley pets when they run off. Prong training has been around for a long time and is a huamne, efficiant safegaurd to assuring a loving and respectful relationship with our pet.
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I f you knew anything about domestic animals, you would know that they are in need of guideance and correction just as a small child is, for their own safety. Whats cruel are those of us who neglect their pets training and end up hurting them when they do something destructive or worse, the unruley pet darts off becomming lost or worse. proper pronfg training has been around a long time and is a humane and efficiant safegaurd to asurring a loving and respectful relationship with our pets.
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No, put it on your neck, then you will see what happens to the dog. Tell me how it feels. I myself have tried it, and I will never put it on my dogs again.
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I have trained many dogs, and only had to resort to the prong on a few male dogs. Prongs are not cruel IF you get the size for your dog... small dogs need the microprongs, and YOU USE IT PROPERLY. They are not meant to exert constant pressure; just a sharp pull and release.
If you think they are cruel, or anyone else does, put it on your/their arm and tug sharply to show what happens to the dog, when it is properly used.
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I'm no trainer but when I put my prong collar on my dog, he instantly obeys w/o the first bit of "correcting" on my part. From day one he tugged and pulled like mad. I slipped on the prong collar and it was like magic. No learning curve at all. I can't explain why but it worked for me and turned out to be a blessing. My wife nearly cried as I demonstrated. I'm sure there are other ways but for about $12, all I have to do is slip it on and he's good to go.
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Not cruel at all: prong collars are not a torture device--they simulate a nip from mother dog or alpha, which is dog language for a correction. It doesn't hurt the dog. If you prefer you could nip them yourself (as long as you don't mind a mouth full of fur).
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Prongs are not cruel. They cause no pain. Only simulate mom's touch when carrying the pups. The prongs are not sharp and the collar never tightens. These things work brilliantly. Once on, my dog never tugs. It's an instinctive behavior device.
mother dogs carry puppies by their whole body. Cats carry their kittens by the scruff of the neck.
I am a positive dog trainer, and I teach and show all my clients how to walk their dog on a loose leash, with the dog slightly behind them. The dog's are much happier, and it's like the pack walking together, with the leader in front. The dog respects the owner this way, and there is no "management" collars in use.
Just my two cents.
tnickerson3 3 years ago 4
If you are such a great trainer, why is your own dog still wearing a prong collar? If you were any good, you could do it without the use of torture devices.
ChillyAndClover 2 years ago 2