Krugman gets p3wned on Canadian Health Care
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the US is regulating its health care but it has all the wrong regulations.
regulation in other countries is far less harmful since its different kinds of regulations
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@pmango1000 Having the Best medical care is irrelevant. Having access to health care is much more important. There are innumerable studies out there which show that Americans avoid using health care because of the cost burden it places on them. The ones who have to use healthcare because of illnesses undergo bankruptcies.
US government actually doesn't regulated healthcare as much as they do in other western countries. If you care about life expectancy, America is far behind most of Europe.
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Not to mention that you have a national sales tax as well... which we don't have in the States. Check out my excel document :)
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@MadHabber93 - I don't doubt all of the benefits that come from all the taxes you pay. In fact, I would be extremely surprised if your benefits were anything less. But that doesn't change the fact that taxes are higher. That's all this was about. Not the benefits that come with the taxes.. just whether or not they were higher and they clearly are. The perks look nice... But I'd rather have th choice than be forced to pay into something I'll never use
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@MadHabber93 - Come now, comparing an Los Angeles to Montreal is completely fair. They are both expensive places to live and are highly populated and affect a good number of people. C'mon... don't go sour on me lol
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@broggi007 For example, in Quebec, all medications are covered under their system in addition to all healthcare costs. They have almost fully subsidized daycare for all. They pay like $25/week for daycare until they age of 4 or 5. Their University tuition costs are lower to the rest of the country, and waaaaaaay lower than U.S. post secondary schools. That's 3 things off the top I think of.
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@broggi007 Agreed, the countries have different loopholes, and the States have a bit more. But to compare to Montreal is not exactly the best thing, as Quebec is the one of the highest taxed provinces in Canada. Not to mention, it also depends what you get out of those taxes as well. As much as I hate paying too much taxes, Quebec has some of the broadest social programs in the country as well. If you compare loopholes, you must compare what the benefits of those taxes.
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@MadHabber93 - I'm not a tax attorney, and I'll guess you aren't either. So, this deduction game carries little merit for this conversation. Both systems have their loopholes, and I willing to wager the US has more loopholes by the nature of our system. Let's take a family in each of one of our largest cities (Montreal & Los Angeles) - I have sent you a link in your inbox to an Excel file. Read it and tell me what looks wrong.
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@broggi007 Sorry, just did a tax calculator for Michigan, based on that $ amount. Total income tax came to 27.4%, not including social security. That is NOT 18%. Again, add in health premiums, co-pays, deductibles and co-insurance, we are ahead. A few States would be lower than that due to no State Tax.
For Alberta, its 29%.
I love all this propoganda BS that American news shows about Canadian healthcare, poking a a country that provides a longer lifespan for its citizens by at least 3 years longer than the average American, 85%+ of Canadian are satisfied with our healthcare, don`t believe the lies of waiting 4-6 months to see a specialist etc etc, if you`ve got a serious disease or whatever you`re seen ad treated right away. Find it arrogant for the American public to criticize another country before looking at you
iLuvBarRefaeli 1 month ago 5
@broggi007 I'd rather have the choice too, except when it comes to healthcare. But again, comparing a city in the highest taxed province is not fair based on the benefits.
And yes, we have a National Sales tax of 5%. And by the looks of your ever ballooning debt, you guys better get one soon too. :)
MadHabber93 2 weeks ago