A Hyperreal Existence part 1

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[nwavedesign]

I understand what you mean about disconnected to the world. SO many times I lose sense of reality and go through "ego-death"...where I feel like I'm in the 3rd person looking at my self like in a dream, half conscious half unconscious.

For me, I have SA, and the only time I don't feel so introspective and overanalyzing everything is when I'm asleep and dreaming. In my dreams I interact with people and don't feel anxious, but in the real world its the opposite.

[ConsciousCloud]

Wow, really? That's cool. I always feel just as anxious, if not more, in my dreams. Unless it's a lucid dream where I know I'm dreaming. And I really like that phrase; "ego-death."

[johnnyemoticon]

to be honest, I think many of us SA sufferers are too consumed with ourselves, too wrapped up in our own thoughts to notice how different things can be from another perspective.

However, I do believe that going inside yourself to find out where you belong and what you're capable of is what is most important. I think embracing this "depersonalization" is better in the long run, as you might find a lot of good can come from this creative mindset.

[ConsciousCloud]

I once read in a psychology book that the world we see while awake is really no different from the one we experience while asleep. Oh yeah, it was from that movie, "Waking Life" and something was said in there about how we're all just sleepwalking through our real lives and wakewalking through our dreams.

[cyrndoh]

You become one with the universe.

[cyrndoh]

It's only when the false is seen as the false, truth is.

I understand some people are coping with this depersonalization thing. It's not a disorder though. It happens when you realize that everything you think you know isn't necessarily so. You become hyper conscious. You see the truth as it is. You see the world without this pre-programmed filter in your mind. It is one step towards enlightenment.

Love is truth.

[LadiiOri]

Hey this park was in your painting. The one with the plugs chasing the rabbit.

[SOCRATES012]

We are the awareness of reality. Thank you for sharing brother. I enjoy this personable honest and humble expression

[mayakronfeld]

3. This reality is the "outermost" reality. We know that this is the world, and that the world is finite. We can situate ourselves within it. But then what does it mean to be situated WITHIN this world, when there is no other world, when there is literally nothing else?

[mayakronfeld]

2. At the same time, knowing that you can never fully access the world (reality) as it is in itself. Theres no such thing as transparent perception. Perception has a FORM. When we represent reality to ourselves we always have to represent it in a certain WAY. So we may feel that we are never in "direct" contact with the world that we know is real, and this is distressing. We may feel that we are perpetually LOSING the only world we know is there.

[mayakronfeld]

Here's are three ways I have of expressing this kind of feeling to myself. I think it can be a really VALUABLE feeling a source of meaning -- even when its distressing.

1. Not taking for granted that there IS a world. Noticing the fact that there is a world

[mathiasgandy]

So because the mechanisms of the universe are non-personal we as personal beings have trouble relating and do not derive much comfort from thinking in such a way. You know, like how some people say,"We are star dust." Such comments don't really offer true comfort. That is why one would do well to look past non-personal philosophies and consider the real possibilities of a personality behind the workings of the universe. Only then is there the chance of knowing unity or fullness.

[mathiasgandy]

really good summary of the "Myth of Myself" videos with Alan Watts. Chris, you should check them out if you haven't already. Concerning feeling unified with the entire working of the cosmos that Watts speaks of has one flaw though concerning the alienation mankind feels toward the universe- we as humans are unique because unlike all the other animals we have a sense of "I" which is obviously the reason for our mental sufferings. We are personal and the universe is not.

[ConsciousCloud]

To experience only nothing, a non-reality...the concept is mind boggling because I wonder how anyone could experience "nothing." The mind is always doing something, there is always some thought there.