RICHMOND, Va. -- Surveillance video of Aaron Tobey going through airport security at Richmond International Airport Dec. 29, 2010 after stripping to his undershorts in protest of the TSA surveillance methods.
@maptlbh so just let the government wire tap your phone, your internet, put a gps tracker on your vehicle, in your arm, in your phone, and CCTV recording throughout your own private property, including inside your house?
THIS IS SIMPLE ITS ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION!
Terrorism wins when we allow it to terrorize us. Fear is no excuse to give up our civil liberties, our RIGHTS.
Everyone needs to remember a few key tips in dealing with the TSA. (1) they cannot touch you unless you give them permission or consent (2) they cannot arrest you - they have to call a LEO for that, (3) ONLY thing they can do is prevent you from flying. If confronted with the scanner opt out, ask for a pat down in private so if there are issues you are not guilty of disturbing the screening process. Record your private pat down, you are allowed to do this. If they do something wrong report it
@mch158 Yes...you seem to hit the nail on the head. People can have too little or can have too much. However, just like the tale we were taught as children...about the three bears?....there can be 'just right'...ya know, a middle ground.
@travelsonic Put it this way: American Security was pretty low then the Twin Towers were destroyed. That caused you to go security crazy and complain about the lack of it. Now that there is higher security you complain.
It is even sillier to believe that their protest puts anybody in danger - or that your argument makes any sense. If security methods cross those legal, and psychological lines, then the fact that it is security doesn't somehow negate that. Nor does it mean they are ignorant - given how many protesters are demanding tried and true Israeli security methods, the cry of ignorance being ironic especially coming from somebody who made such bald-faced unfounded generalizations.
If you think these people protesting the TSA's practice somehow think all screening is pointless, well, perhaps you ought to go back and re-read the arguments - as the notion that all screening is pointless has not, nor ever been one of those arguments.
Can people supporting this crap at least TRY to read, and comprehend the arguments being made? *sigh*
Thanks aron tobey for protesting this gestapo/ israel constitution robbing process of going through phony security..... it robs you of your integrity also..... who wants people them? surely not me in the name of fake security.
i wish everyone had a gun on the plane im on....... thats the problem with gun control...... you dont control criminals...... its a known fact... you control the law abiding citizens and the bad guys know you are no threat to them,,,, if everyone had a gun it would be a very different country..... outlaw crime not guns
The TSA is REACTIVE not proactive. To wit: immediately after the "shoe" bomber, we were forced to remove our footwear; immediately after the "underwear" bomber, we were forced to undergo a full body scan or genital groping. And, in EACH of those cases, the PASSENGERS prevented the terrorists from succeeding. Meanwhile TSA searches little old ladies & people in wheelchairs, all in the name of political correctness to avoid being viewed as racist. TSA= image above substance.
@maptlbh so just let the government wire tap your phone, your internet, put a gps tracker on your vehicle, in your arm, in your phone, and CCTV recording throughout your own private property, including inside your house?
THIS IS SIMPLE ITS ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION!
Terrorism wins when we allow it to terrorize us. Fear is no excuse to give up our civil liberties, our RIGHTS.
freeze1305 2 months ago 2
THis is simple- if u don't like it, don't fly, usa has much bigger fish to fry
maptlbh 2 months ago
Everyone needs to remember a few key tips in dealing with the TSA. (1) they cannot touch you unless you give them permission or consent (2) they cannot arrest you - they have to call a LEO for that, (3) ONLY thing they can do is prevent you from flying. If confronted with the scanner opt out, ask for a pat down in private so if there are issues you are not guilty of disturbing the screening process. Record your private pat down, you are allowed to do this. If they do something wrong report it
PullenJoe 4 months ago
@mch158 Yes...you seem to hit the nail on the head. People can have too little or can have too much. However, just like the tale we were taught as children...about the three bears?....there can be 'just right'...ya know, a middle ground.
blackaurora44 5 months ago
@travelsonic Put it this way: American Security was pretty low then the Twin Towers were destroyed. That caused you to go security crazy and complain about the lack of it. Now that there is higher security you complain.
mch158 5 months ago
It is even sillier to believe that their protest puts anybody in danger - or that your argument makes any sense. If security methods cross those legal, and psychological lines, then the fact that it is security doesn't somehow negate that. Nor does it mean they are ignorant - given how many protesters are demanding tried and true Israeli security methods, the cry of ignorance being ironic especially coming from somebody who made such bald-faced unfounded generalizations.
travelsonic 5 months ago
If you think these people protesting the TSA's practice somehow think all screening is pointless, well, perhaps you ought to go back and re-read the arguments - as the notion that all screening is pointless has not, nor ever been one of those arguments.
Can people supporting this crap at least TRY to read, and comprehend the arguments being made? *sigh*
travelsonic 5 months ago
more on topic:
Thanks aron tobey for protesting this gestapo/ israel constitution robbing process of going through phony security..... it robs you of your integrity also..... who wants people them? surely not me in the name of fake security.
lynnsbomb 6 months ago
i wish everyone had a gun on the plane im on....... thats the problem with gun control...... you dont control criminals...... its a known fact... you control the law abiding citizens and the bad guys know you are no threat to them,,,, if everyone had a gun it would be a very different country..... outlaw crime not guns
lynnsbomb 6 months ago
@bsixseven
The TSA is REACTIVE not proactive. To wit: immediately after the "shoe" bomber, we were forced to remove our footwear; immediately after the "underwear" bomber, we were forced to undergo a full body scan or genital groping. And, in EACH of those cases, the PASSENGERS prevented the terrorists from succeeding. Meanwhile TSA searches little old ladies & people in wheelchairs, all in the name of political correctness to avoid being viewed as racist. TSA= image above substance.
cyberties 6 months ago