Why Christians have it wrong (46 of 50)

The divinity of Christ, his victory over death, the Shroud of Turin as proof of the resurrection. Our citizenship in heaven.

For more reading about the Shroud and its authenticity check out Ian Wilson's "The Blood and the Shroud."

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[goobymoogy]

I and many others rejected our religion as a rational belief system because of the threat of everlasting torture. This video may help believers that are struggling with this.

[Secretknowledge75]

Yes sir, I have watched the whole series. I must say your presentation was extreemely well put together and most informative. Ive been listening under another user name. Yes, faith that works through love. I always saw in the Scriptures that faith is unto works. Now if I speak of faith,I wouldnt refer to faith that is dead. A living faith. Bless those that curse us,pray for them that despitefully use us,forgive us AS we forgive others etc. Yes we are judged by works. Grace is a gift of YHWH

[malakhhatzadik]

It's not about believing or even knowing. It's about doing. The only law is LOVE. Even faith is only "saving" because it is credited as righteousness. It's not that no one is justified by works, it's just that there is no justification for evil because the law can only condemn us. That doesn't mean we're not judged according to our works.

Did you watch the videos, or just this one?

[Secretknowledge75]

yes sir, I would fully agree with that. The Holy Spirit is absolute. The only Law that I see in the NT is the Law of faith. Belief in the One who justifies the ungodly. In fact this Law of faith was used in the OT for salvation as well,no flesh is justified through works of Law. Its really not about rules and regulations. To unite with the Absolute Spirit(Holy Spirit)requires faith which is also a free gift from YHWH. He gives freely to all without finding fault at what measure He pleases. YES

[malakhhatzadik]

YHWH = I AM (I have been becoming)

There is no sense in which the Holy Spirit is not universally aware. It's not so hard to imagine when you realize that on a basic level we are all interconnected, and on a higher level we are all the same consciousness. Particularism (categorization, dialectical logic) is not inherent in nature. It is learned. It may be useful, but it is also a privation of consciousness. Hence the fundamental tenets of religion are true but the dogmas are normally false.

[Secretknowledge75]

My friend,I should have explained it better I guess. Since knowledge is growing and we never totally in the absolute sense know all,then I would think that no matter how advanced our knowledge is there is always more. That was what I was trying to say. Yes we can have objectivity. Yes we must have it. And I appreciate your time. What IS,stands alone without the dependancy of human awareness to confirm or deny. IT simply IS. Yes we do interact with IT. At all levels IT is all that IS.

[malakhhatzadik]

Subjectivity is perspective, not (necessarily) emotions. If you were right in your assessment of knowledge (being perspective/subjectivity) then there would be no objectivity, nor "absolute knowledge." Without objectivity we wouldn't know subjectivity.

Objectivity = universal consciousness. I can't say that "we" are after it because I don't know you. For my part, my thirst for truth is sincere.

[Secretknowledge75]

Friend, thank you. When I speak of certainty,Im not speaking of an emotional state,which would be subjective. Ok,help me understand.And I ask that you please not be offended. Knowledge is not really what we possess right? It is the perception of that absolute knowledge,its how we relate to it. The best understanding(as humans)must filter,"water down" that knowledge in order to relate to it. So tell me this,is it not a workable knowledge through perception that we are really after?

[malakhhatzadik]

Wisdom is justified in all her children.

You are basically asking about knowledge vs. certainty. So to answer your question re: deception, if you know, then you are right, and if you are deceived, then you are not right. Pretty simple, isn't it? Beliefs are for people who don't know, because belief implies something that is contrary to reason or lacking sufficient evidence. In other words knowledge is not subjective. What you want is certainty, which is subjective.

[Secretknowledge75]

can you tell us how to have universal awareness? Whats a safe way of having it? And how would one know it was true universal awareness and not a deception? Nothing insulting at all. Would these not be legitamate questions?