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The pieces of fencing shown here are our interpretations of the corresponding pieces from the Fechtbuch by Johannes Lecküchner (Cgm. 582, year: 1482) and the Codex Wallerstein (Cod.I.6.4.2, from about 1470)

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  • When I first saw the words "Langes Messer" I was like "That's the gayest name I've ever heard". And then I actually watched some videos and realized "DAMN, that thing looks like a mini Buster Sword!"

    And so I shut up.

  • @Kunstdesfechtens: That's not correct. The Messer is part of a development of weapons with riveted handles coming up in the late middle ages. The "Bauernwehr" and many other weapons are part of the same family. There is no direct development from the Sax to the Messer, the only parallel is that they both are single-edged. I have studied those weapons some years and own a few original pieces myself. Sorry for bad English, would like to discuss it in German any time.

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  • @fsbritney

    Nope. He cuts the throat, not the arm. Thus edge faces upwards.

  • @qwertyuiop298 it means long knife in german...

  • Also irgendwie ....ob sowas im Ernstfall hinhaut :O .. ich weiss ja ned.

    Wenn man in 1000 Jahren die Jediritter findet auf BlueRay denken wohl auch alle es gab mal Lichtschwerter lol

  • @GaraLuiMartin

    I know he has the kind of lages messers we see in this clip. But idk about the grosse messer (the two handed version). I'm no expert either so there may be one. If you ever come across the drawings or instructions again, please send me a PM.

  • @gurkfisk89 I make no claim to be an expert, but didn't Talhoffer write a manual on grosse Messer fighting? I know somewhere in the past I have seen drawings and instructions of grosse Messer techniques.

  • Ich freue mich wie Ihr das alte Fechterwissen zu neuem Leben erweckt habt!

  • @ThePowerExcess The CS grossemesser is IIRC a two handed "kriegsmesser" type weapon, right? In that case, it's used just like a longsword. You can even strike with the back edge... some were sharpened for a bit of their length, and if not, you can still generate sufficient impact with a blunt back edge.

  • considering the term "Langes Messer" to be gay would be an absolute proof you have no understanding of German.

  • This is so much cooler than modern fencing.

  • Gekonnt!

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