Dialogue on Postgenderism

a short dialogue on the role of gender and sex and how those relate to science and values.
cf. http://www.amazon.com/Evolutions-Rainbow-Diversity-Gender-Sexuality/dp/052026...
&
http://www.amazon.com/Handmaids-Tale-Everymans-Library/dp/0307264602/ref=sr_1...

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Gender
• sex
• identity
• science
• values
• normative science
• evaluation
• dialogue
• diversity
• diversity politics

[zarkoff45]

Judging by the way people use plastic surgery now, the future won't be Postgenderism, it will be Hypergenderism.

[Professoranton]

interesting. maybe.

[AnonymousElektron]

I'm saddened by your lack of confidence in science, and humanity.

If we're so unworthy, then isn't it over?

If we can't steer our own destiny, how can we be trusted to collectively do anything?

And any technology has the potential for abuse.

Do you want to take away my guns? My encryption?

Technological freedom for all!

Neuro and Biological freedom!

You can have your world, but I will have mine.

I'm getting a nerve array implanted just like Dr Warwick.

[AsuraShin]

Why do ye think it's sad or strange to want to escape the body?? Am I missing something here? I don't get why ye have a problem with it. So what if they want to escape the meat of the body? So what if they want to flee the cartesian soul? Do you think the way we live now is the only way of experiencing? Just because we are used to living in meat bags with one subjective outlook on life, doesn't make it "ridiculous" to try and find another way to experience it.

[monoham1]

i saw an anime last year in melbourne at manifest where the entire population were women who could choose to become men at age 18.

[ADDTV]

James Hughes had this to say in an interview we did with him on this subject: "Your preferencing of the authenticity of "real" interaction will seem quaint in thirty years. The interactions of people with nano-neural interfaces will be inconceivably more "real," deep, profound and intense than the existing meat puppets, staring through water balls, pawing with meat hands, driven by hormone triggers, and then basking in oxytocin pleasure once their reproductive imperative is fulfilled."

[particleion]

Thank you for taking the time to explore the postgenderism issue with us.. It is a very important topic and yet it is also very strange we know, ...

PS Sorry for the robot sex :P

[Miscskies]

> ... from the Cartesian soul into some sort of electrical soul that you download. I mean, it's ridiculous.

Reminds me of the Ghost in the Shell series. The way it incorporated this particular aspect was quite amazing.

[rextrek]

yea its never gonna be like StarTrek

[CoffeesIsBack]

At a young age (3 even) I wanted to be a boy because I thought it was unfair that I didn't get to choose. For the sake of rebellion and curiosity, being a boy seemed like a better idea, so I dressed in my boy cousin's clothes. I forced my mom to comply with my demand.

The idea of refusing to be the biological gender you are could be a very Freudian concept. Thankfully I got over it.

Transexualism and transhumanism is a desire to transcend what we are wired as; we fail badly at escaping it.