Seaking Helicopter Aerobatics Vertical Wingover
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120KIAS, nose up to 30°, When Speed reaches 60KIAS initiate pedal turn. Should bring you out at 120KIAS about the same level as you started with 180° different direction, if I remember that right. :)
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@mathewstw I never said I would attempt it in a sea king haha. Point was just based on aerodynamics, in any single rotor helicopter with a vertical fin, if you nose up to 30 degrees or so with enough forward speed, roll to either side the tail will swing up and bring the nose to the ground. Theory? Every time. Do it in a 10 ton helicopter? hell no haha. The 58D's I fly are 5000lb sports cars and its fun every time as long as you stay in trim and don't side sliding sideways lol
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Seen a Chinook and Lynx do it (real world).
I really never did this wingover or hellobatics in a Seaking because I respect its size and weight. But Alloutte, I do it with 90 deg noseup at 45k kick rudder to turn the nose vertically down and continue going up with the tail up now. It stops in a few seconds, then comes down vertically. Use the collective to get lateral speed and then pull the stick back lowering collective a bit and again pull collective, build up the speed to 100 k at 10 feet from the ground and pull up for another one.
mathewstw 2 months ago
@WhyDidIBuyThis Negative collective is not required. ANY helicopter can do this that has a vertical fin. And it does not require any pedal input beyond staying in trim. You pitch up, roll the nose, and aerodynamics takes over from there dropping the nose. Doing it without roll and pushing the tail with pedals is very unsafe.
mjm9536 3 months ago
@mjm9536 In a Seaking at 21,500 lbs all up weight, the max allowed nose up is 10 deg, nose down is 2 degree, exception is a vortex ring recovery of 15 deg, max angle of bank allowed 30 degrees, and do you still think with these manufacturer imposed limitations the Seaking helicopter can still do all these? Some daring pilots take it beyond all allowed limits and still live to tell the tale. Normally this manoeuvre would have chopped off the entire tail boom.
mathewstw 3 months ago
@mathewstw You said those limits are at max gross that is a whole different story. Strictly looking at rotary wing areodynamics, with forward speed, if you pitch up enough, and just use lateral cyclic to roll and hold it air will catch the vertical fin and swing the nose around to the ground in any conventional helo. I fly 58D's and I know our pitch roll limits are often exceeded. The limitations are always written as do not *intentionally* exceed pitch angles of blah blah for a reason lol
mjm9536 3 months ago
@mjm9536 I have flown the Alloutte III's where I used to do this manoeuvre. But then I was not married. With seaking I cannot even imagine it because its 62 feet dia rotors are known to chop the tail boom with high nose up. Even the MGB runs dry in a few seconds and gives grinding sounds in high noseup. I have tried 60 deg nose up and down plus 60 deg bank to both sides and she just loses height. It is very sluggish on controls and I do not want to experiment.
But nice to talk to a pilot.
mathewstw 3 months ago
fake bullshit defying the laws of physics
bakkerrich1979 1 year ago 10
@bakkerrich1979 It is only an animation. I can't animate it any better. But I fly it much better.
mathewstw 1 year ago