Piggyback: RE: Thunderf00t can't debate God.

A piggyback video. My response to VenomFangX's supreme intellect.

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• Religion
• Atheist
• God
• Proof
• Disprove
• lol
• logic
• venomfangx
• thunderf00t

[MastaMatt343]

hahaha the entire theory of evolution is based on the fact that there is no God, no creator. So how can you explain getting complexity out of chaos? Evolutionists like to jump past the point where life, the universe, and everything was created because they can't explain it. And natural selection is flawed by the fact that apes still exist. If we evolved from them because Humans were superior, how come the rest of the apes haven't evolved? or did natural selection forget about them?

[AzureFlameElk]

Evolution explains the diversity of live. Abiogenesis is a different subject. We have theories for the begining of the universe, where just not so arrogant as to claim we're certain of them.

Yeah, apes and humans coexist.

Just as Britain and America still exist. They were once both the same thing, and then they split!

Besides, human beings ARE APES currently! Look it up!

[AzureFlameElk]

@MastaMatt343

If Americans came from Europe, why are there still Europeans?

Checkmate Atheists.

[MastaMatt343]

so how is losing your keys relevant to theories of creation? hahaha Isn't Chaos theory how the universe generally works? meaning order doesn't come from disorder, it only gets more entropic (chaos). So how does something as complex as humans come from nothing. Its not possible without a Creator. If you throw a deck of cards on the ground, they're not going to fall into order on their own: someone has to put them in order. The universe is too complex and functional for it to be random.

[AzureFlameElk]

/facepalm

For the last fucking time, evolution has nothing to do with randomness. Natural selection is not random.

Losing your keys is completely relevant to the topic that was actually being addressed.

When you lose your keys, there's no reason to junp to a complex explaination (Paris Hilton) without first considering simpilar answers.

This is the same with anything (Ocham's Razor).

[Thunderf00t]

LMAO, Paris Hilton and the Ninjas FTW!

[MistaJussu]

this guy PWNTTTTTTTTTTT THE SHIT OUT OF THAT VENOMFANGX SUCKER!!

[bajramovic92]

@MastaMatt343

Way to be scientifically illiterate.

1. If you are talking about the second law of thermodynamics (which you don't seem to understand), that only applies to isolated systems. The earth is an open system (we receive energy from the sun).

2. Just because you can't explain it now, doesn't mean goddunnit. That's called a logical fallacy. Learn about those so you don't look like a fucktard in the future.

3. You don't know anything about natural selection, so don't talk about it.

[MrDingedong]

creationists are retardsXD

[Fonzie8819]

by whos definition?

If i wanted to i could consider apes to be human. But thats just calssification. and Classification is man made which means its susceptible to change. Humans are imperfect in so many ways. We might consider ourselvs intelgent btu considering Humans are the most intelegent beings on our earth there is nothing to challenge it. GIving us the illusion of being these all knowing beings, when simply put we do not know one ounce of the zillion ton knowdlege there is in the universe

[Fonzie8819]

Your argument is a double edged sword. What true ignorance is a relativly young race claiming to know science. You value science as a method of learning. This is true but what there is to learn has always exsisted. The laws of physics ect. always exsisted we just "discovered" science as a way to interpret and understand. It does not give a solid foundary as to origins yet there are so many that claim it does. Thats just as ignorant if you ask me.

[draconusrex33]

your infinite progression argument is very faulty in light of string theory.A creator would be more complex but able to be part of and outside of its creation, not an infinite progression of complexity.

This is something already explained by Judaism/Christianity.How do I know God exists you ask.

He has communicated with us in the past through the Hebrews and his son in several different ways.

[chrisfr90]

How do you know religion will be there, where does argument rest. Do you actually know that it is the final answers, were is your proof, how can you be absolutely certain.

Please dont say faith because faith is only a word that makes ignorance and foolishness something noble.

[draconusrex33]

when science finally figures out how the multi verse came into existence they will find religion has been there waiting for them the whole time.

[AzureFlameElk]

True, but only in a figurative manner. Lucifer is as unlikely as Jehovah.

[chrisfr90]

A better argument against ID. If the universe is so complex that has a design and a designer, so the designer would have to be more complex than the design and because of the complexity of his design would need a more complex designer, etc. There would be an infinite number of sub and superior gods. ID is just a religious way to survive science, theist just don't know that its futile, rock crushes scissors, scissors beats paper, paper covers rock and sciences will always trump religion