CNN on Barr and the "spoiler effect"
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This lady is dumb. No actual libertarian would even consider voting for McCain, even if it meant their single vote would help Obama loose. Because both McCain and Obama were pretty statists alright.
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@MacabreManifesto And thus make a strategic vote in order to halt the greater of two evils. In Instant runoff voting you could feel fine to vote for this Bob Barr guy and then have a secondary vote for the lesser of two evils major party so that even if Bob Barker loses then your votes will still have power over the election because they are recycled to the major candidates. This way we would actually be a multi party system, multi party system FTW!!!
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There will never be a viable third party in first past the post. First past the post is not democracy, or it is forced democracy. If there were actually six candidates and five got 16% each and then the sixth got 20% then 20% would basically have say over the country. The forced democracy makes it so that people only ever look at two parties because only those two are seen as having a chance at winning, or you feel obligated to vote for a dem because you think reps are complete shit, vice versa,
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I'm all for the push of Libertarian ideals and believe that together America can change this two party system...but there comes a point where common sense has to step in and realize that in the 2008 election, voting for a third party wasn't going to change shit. If so, why not take it a step further, and not vote at all, and just go outside naked and pray for God to come down and give us a leader! I mean, at some point you need to become a realist and ACTUALLY do whats best for the country...
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it would be alsome if one day the 2 partys are "spoilers"
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Blame Perot! No blame the voters for being lead to believing the "spoiler lie"
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One of the big things about third party candidates is that, when the main party sees that the independent party is getting enough voters or support or funding that they thought would go to their major party, they actually look at and address the major issue or issues that the third party built its platform on.
They bring up issues, show major party that some of their base is not happy with decisions or lack of they are making. They will take stronger stand on issue in close states.
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Ha ha! Yeah. I'm hoping eventually a 3rd party candidate will become president. (A Libertarian mainly.) If Obama is unpopular by the time his term is up then people just might say,"Bush and the Republicans fucked up! Obama and the Democrats fucked up! I might see the other options out there." Who knows, in 2012 the Libertarians might have a reason to win. Like when alcoholics hit rock bottom before they realize they need to quit drinking, the US might hit rock bottom and vote Libertarian. :D
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coooooooooool!well good luck! and keep voting for who you feel is the best for you!! even though they will never win in our life time!! lol! j/k peace!
In my opinion, this talk of a "SPOILER" is just spin to scare votes away from Barr. This "spoiler" story is the REAL SPOILER. If people think Bob Barr should be president they should vote for him. There is no reason to believe that Barr is "stealing" votes. While I'm sure that we will see a republican or democrat as president, I'm sick of people being scared into voting for one of the big parties.
jrmckamey 3 years ago 6
The problem is that Major Media and the Two Headed One Party fails to get it. Many of us would not vote for either candidate to begin with.
memojuez 3 years ago 3