The Church is like Mary Poppins (2)

Part 2 of a discussion between Wyatt and Clark regarding common Christian views (particularly LDS/Mormon) toward homosexuality and gay marriage.

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[PeterOrszagCallMe]

This is funny--I go through this with my sister all the time. She insists that I'm not really happy. I've been in a stable, loving relationship for 11 years but she still really needs me to be unhappy. When I was in the church I was never happy and it took years of therapy to work through a lot of that stuff. Funny, because she is REALLY unhappy, angry, & always lashing out yet she doesn't see it in herself because she's got the church so she can't admit it.

[NoAntecessor]

@PeterOrszagCallMe, that's one of the downsides of leaving the church. Your relatives who remain in the church *must* view you as unhappy to fit their worldview. You have to be the black sheep, regardless of how successful and happy you become.

[Coquipirate]

Truth by it's nature is exclusive. While something can be true ABOUT you but not about me (ie being gay or straight), nothing can be true FOR you but not me (ie Thomas S. Monson being or not being a prophet). That's just silly.

[digitalkaos2374]

I don't know anything about Morman, so this isn't the place for me to comment.

What I want to know now is, what's your view on religion in general?

[Pisces31660]

my god what does this mormon church teach...? so hateful.just like catholic n baptist church n islam...u boyz r adorable..thats al that really matters in the end LOL hugs n kisses boyzzzz.

[carlasue88]

I love this!

In the first few minutes of the film 8: The Mormon Proposition you see one of the apostles saying something along the lines of, "If gay people look happy, it's just a facade, they're actually horrifically miserable."

[praestant8]

@tej725 However "practically perfect" is not "absolutely perfect." There is still an inherent flaw there. The other thing is that Mary Poppins became attached to the family. Mormonism however does not leave when the wind changes. It wants to hold you captive, because it could not survive on its own. Really it's kind of parasitic.

[LukeBasarab]

I love the Mary Poppins analogy - Wyatt you're a really smart guy. I enjoy watching your videos Clark - you have friends as smart and skin deep as yourself

[tej725]

I get what you are saying with the Mary Poppins analogy... But I think you are wrong.

Mary Poppins is indeed practically perfect in every way. She never planned on staying forever, only "until the wind changes." In her perfection, she knew she would not stay forever, just until she showed the family what they needed.

I agree with everything else though :)

[longhursts]

a. you two are HILARIOUS (you can't tell, but i just sang that)

b. i've never thought of it in quite this way, but i LOVE what you're both saying.

c. thanks so much for making these. lots to think about :)

loves,

becca

[rd1999]

I'm a member in good standing, temple recommend in hand, i feel that Mormonism is not the be all and end all. It IS possible, in fact necessary to evolve beyond Mormon teachings in order to accept greater truths such as science, evolution and the true history of man/life on this earth that is clearly not understood within Mormonism