Debate: Is God Necessary for Ethics? - Hausam/Keller - April 13, 2007

A debate at the University of Utah on April 13, 2007, between Mark Hausam and David Keller.

Yes: Mark Hausam, Elder at Christ Presbyterian Church in Salt Lake City. Instructor of Philosophy, Utah Valley State College.

No: David R. Keller, Associate Professor of Philosophy. Utah Valley State College.

Moderator: Deen Chatterjee, Associate Professor of Philosophy. University of Utah.

Category:

People & Blogs

Tags:

• god
• christ
• theism
• atheism
• ethics
• morality

[MrMontagne]

Two words: euthyphro dilemma

[cakethief]

this video has caused hundreds to suffer in Debbie White's intro to ethics class in UML

[sprflyenya]

@greatscottiv 36 minutes in, I started getting annoyed, found this comment, then facepalmed

[mebe84]

theist says at 36 min in that the only way to justify acting as if humans have intrinsic worth is to grant god's existence,so these moral atheists are nearly closet theists. however, this is totally false. worth is not a tangible substance imparted to humans by a god. it is a judgement made by a being capable of valuing. so even if u believe in a god who values humans, u must still judge for yourself whether u believe humans have worth. in the end, only u can validate your own view of ethics.

[mebe84]

@greenreese not boring to me. in fact they get far deeper into the subject than more popular debates like sharpton vs hitchens,which was shallow and unproductive.

[DNUmbra]

This moderator is a fucking joke.

[RyneoV]

Deen is wearing a tie!

[greatscottiv]

neither of these clowns even begins to understand the other side, and so neither will convince anyone. don't waste your time with this debate like I did.

[eyst]

Theist (in the beginning): " I want to define what a mean by god. An infinite personal beeing, who is at the back of all things, who is the creator of all things, the ground of all things, the source of all reality, the context of all reality."

Later, the theist argues 1:51:35:"I think you can't explain anything without god, including ethics..."

Does no one see how ridiculous that is?

1. God explains everything

2. Without god nothing can't be argued for

3. Therefor god is nevessary for ethics.

[DannyPhantomBeast]

I do agree with the Atheist: "If God exists, God gave us reason for a REASON."