Another Proof Of God: Feeling Consciousness (2/2)

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Another Proof For The Existence Of God: Feeling Consciousness (2/2) - The Atheist Experience #594 with Matt Dillahunty and Jen Peeples.
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[a68rebel]

Incesturbation

[CallMeMrX]

@HomuncuIus Wrong, ignorance is assuming that because we cannot explain something, it is a better idea to create a reason, than to admit that we do not have the answer and continue searching.

To say that there is a creating force, is to open paths of questions which serve to lead us away from the more logical paths of reason. If i cannot see into a dark cave, I do not assume there is a particular object down there, I would look for a way to light the cave, and discover the truth.

[herpderpmonkey]

Everyone should go check out the TED speech video "Jill Bolte Taylor's stroke of insight". The lady has a stroke that turns off the part of the brain that controls consciousness, and explains what it feels like. Consciousness is a product of the brain.

I believe

[40gabe]

I've been trying this free will debate somewhere else with no action, maybe here.

Ok, I propose that determinism is the only logical conclusion, and free will is a blank check. Free will is magic.

Incesturbation ftw.

[shedininja001]

@a68rebel whatever it is i win lol

[me25422]

peace and love to everybody!

[me25422]

making pittsburgh look bad...

[lion575]

This was a very pointless conversation from both perspectives. I made the assumption based on the Title that a discussion on consciousness as it relates to god or not would be taking place. Instead a bunch of false claims about free will are discussed by a caller jumping around to multiple topics, and a host that as totally clueless to the concept of free will. Why was this video even posted?

[Chinomareno]

@rimidalvetarak

I would be weary of taking that stance, other animals display a level of awareness but it's hard to be certain they experience what we call consciousness. They probably do but we have no way of knowing exactly when or what forms demand a consciousness. The caller conflates that with his religious concept of soul. It seems unknowable to me how why or by what force materials/elaborate chemical reactions become self aware or why we particularly need to be the ones conscious.

[MunkyDrag0n]

I am conscious, therefore I have a soul.

Okay, then do sleeping people lose their souls?

Do people in comas lose their souls?

Even if consciousness and soul are synonymous, that tells us nothing about the nature of the soul.

BTW, scientists have already examined consciousness by monitoring brain activity and chemical reactions inside living humans. NONE discovered that the human was kept alive by an immortal, invisible, immaterial state of being.

[rimidalvetarak]

And by the way, conciousness is result of evolution. The very thing that enable human to survive for such a long time.

Human are the most frail of animals yet we dominate the earth thanks to our brain development which in turn evolved conciousness.

[rimidalvetarak]

The brain may be collection of atom, the memory and experiences are not. Computer may be just collection of wires, sillicons and plastics. Its database and capabilities are not.