@whatsflawless they are great together. Wrestling for top positioning and control, and judo for throws! And do BJJ for the guard and submissions. You'll be about 2/3 ready for the UFC.
is it just me or does wrestling and judo compliment each other well? I've just met so many wrestling guys at grappling tournaments that cross train in judo as well and vice versa. I just do judo but my dad was a college wrestler, and i just think they are both so similar with top control and their bases are second to none.
Dude, YOU'RE the one arguing that historians "proved" that Chinese were the first wrestlers in some ass-pulled year. "White America" isn't pushing a race-based pseudo "history" here but YOU are. You do have a sound point that wrestling is a universal human timeless thing...So, therefore, to be logical...drop your contradictory "China 2697" defense and embrace truth instead. Don't be like the "white america" you don't get, except you choose to swap in "China" for "Greece."
But like what i typed earlier, as "people" aka homo sapiens.
And why do we continue to refer Wrestling as Ancient Greece?
In china, i don't hear them saying Greece did it first or whatever.. So why is it USA and Europe continue to say Ancient Greece? Because they are predominately white, and will go with white race history..?
Americans don't care about Greeks nor Chinese, btw. There were tribesmen IN AMERICA wrestling from time to time before the Greeks or Chinese wrote a word about it. But that doesn't make wrestling "American" either. And it wasn't Africans either...missing link types wrestled over stuff just like gorillas and whatnot do to this day...long before there were humans in Africa or anywhere else. Now if you want history of specific SPORTS of wrestling...that's different and can be somewhat tracked.
@OVERCAPITALIZE But, even if true (Chinese "recorded" some rasslin from 2697) all you're measuring is who kept track of records. That's like pretending Chinese hunted or fished first, if the earliest writings covering hunting or fishing we find are Chinese. That make no sense. Everybody was hunting and gathering everywhere, no matter who wrote it down best. Anyways, nobody thinks "Africans" did anthing first except, maybe, evolve. But long before that...our species was still wrestling.
No! That's not what i meant.. Wrestling is a HUMAN universal thing.
The thing is who did wrestling first as of "people" to be recorded (probably the one of the longest?) would be Chinese..
And as of countries like USA to wrestling referring it as the Ancient Greeks is probably cause the majority are white. I mean like what predominated white countries are gonna say the "Africans" did wrestling first and going to refer to it every time it comes down to history? You know what i mean?
@OVERCAPITALIZE That's actually pretty cool that school taught you about Chinese martial arts! But my point is this: if Chinese were rasslin in 2697bc...they were also rasslin in 2968bc. And so were some dudes in europe and africa and everywhere else. It isn't logical for "wrestling" to be invented some arbitary year by some group of people that kept bettter notes. Freaking toddlers do it. Animals do it. Chimps were doing it before we evolved. It's like running or swimming. Nobody gets credit.
@OVERCAPITALIZE Lol. You have no idea what "historians" think of 2697 bc. You're too busy ready youtube comments! But its a joke to pretend Chinese wrestled first in 2697bc as that is a nonsense claim. Besides, the point is you can't ever talk about martial arts without some art/race focused peanut gallery trying to pretend some arbitrary dudes should get more credit than others. Chinese were first! Judo! Wrestling! Bruce Lee!
Lol. But that's how close historians got, at least the guy had some kind of "exact" point rather than saying "long time ago" when we can't prove that..
I remember learning in world history class that first people (groups of them..) started to explore out of Africa to the Middle East to Asia then to the Europe.
@Brandontrann Everyone has a game plan until you get a whap to the yap and a shot to the snot and this cutey is coming apart. Seeing Elvis in the Supermarket, leaning like the tower of Pizza.
@eyesea Well said. These techniques go back before recorded history in many cases. There's no sense to attributing them to one art or another. They are independent of art and part of human history itself.
@Brandontrann Right. And before that Gilgamesh wrestled Enkidu so the mesopotamians were first. Except for those neaderthols wrestling other monkeys at the beginning of 2001 who were really first. Until the obilisk made them discover bones and spaceships.
@whatsflawless they are great together. Wrestling for top positioning and control, and judo for throws! And do BJJ for the guard and submissions. You'll be about 2/3 ready for the UFC.
redbulldog 1 month ago
@whatsflawless I agree they work very well together. You can add some BJJ and become a grappling monster.
UmDiaEuFicoBom 2 months ago
is it just me or does wrestling and judo compliment each other well? I've just met so many wrestling guys at grappling tournaments that cross train in judo as well and vice versa. I just do judo but my dad was a college wrestler, and i just think they are both so similar with top control and their bases are second to none.
whatsflawless 3 months ago
coshiguruma, honkezagatame
jmarceloba 3 months ago
Good display of no gi judo dude!
jaffar1808 5 months ago
I just came onto this video to see some Judo techniques and everyone is arguing about racial issues. WTF? O__O
Sushimaniac96 5 months ago
Dude, YOU'RE the one arguing that historians "proved" that Chinese were the first wrestlers in some ass-pulled year. "White America" isn't pushing a race-based pseudo "history" here but YOU are. You do have a sound point that wrestling is a universal human timeless thing...So, therefore, to be logical...drop your contradictory "China 2697" defense and embrace truth instead. Don't be like the "white america" you don't get, except you choose to swap in "China" for "Greece."
redbulldog 5 months ago
@redbulldog
But like what i typed earlier, as "people" aka homo sapiens.
And why do we continue to refer Wrestling as Ancient Greece?
In china, i don't hear them saying Greece did it first or whatever.. So why is it USA and Europe continue to say Ancient Greece? Because they are predominately white, and will go with white race history..?
I still don't get it. -_-
OVERCAPITALIZE 5 months ago
Americans don't care about Greeks nor Chinese, btw. There were tribesmen IN AMERICA wrestling from time to time before the Greeks or Chinese wrote a word about it. But that doesn't make wrestling "American" either. And it wasn't Africans either...missing link types wrestled over stuff just like gorillas and whatnot do to this day...long before there were humans in Africa or anywhere else. Now if you want history of specific SPORTS of wrestling...that's different and can be somewhat tracked.
redbulldog 5 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE But, even if true (Chinese "recorded" some rasslin from 2697) all you're measuring is who kept track of records. That's like pretending Chinese hunted or fished first, if the earliest writings covering hunting or fishing we find are Chinese. That make no sense. Everybody was hunting and gathering everywhere, no matter who wrote it down best. Anyways, nobody thinks "Africans" did anthing first except, maybe, evolve. But long before that...our species was still wrestling.
redbulldog 5 months ago
@redbulldog
No! That's not what i meant.. Wrestling is a HUMAN universal thing.
The thing is who did wrestling first as of "people" to be recorded (probably the one of the longest?) would be Chinese..
And as of countries like USA to wrestling referring it as the Ancient Greeks is probably cause the majority are white. I mean like what predominated white countries are gonna say the "Africans" did wrestling first and going to refer to it every time it comes down to history? You know what i mean?
OVERCAPITALIZE 5 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE That's actually pretty cool that school taught you about Chinese martial arts! But my point is this: if Chinese were rasslin in 2697bc...they were also rasslin in 2968bc. And so were some dudes in europe and africa and everywhere else. It isn't logical for "wrestling" to be invented some arbitary year by some group of people that kept bettter notes. Freaking toddlers do it. Animals do it. Chimps were doing it before we evolved. It's like running or swimming. Nobody gets credit.
redbulldog 5 months ago
@redbulldog
I'm just saying what i learn from school.
OVERCAPITALIZE 5 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE Lol. You have no idea what "historians" think of 2697 bc. You're too busy ready youtube comments! But its a joke to pretend Chinese wrestled first in 2697bc as that is a nonsense claim. Besides, the point is you can't ever talk about martial arts without some art/race focused peanut gallery trying to pretend some arbitrary dudes should get more credit than others. Chinese were first! Judo! Wrestling! Bruce Lee!
redbulldog 5 months ago
@swassontelus
Haha.
OVERCAPITALIZE 5 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE Now that I read this sober, jeeze, time to take away from keyboard. :-)
swassontelus 5 months ago
@swassontelus
Science can also be an art but it doesn't matter.
OVERCAPITALIZE 5 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE Historians are Artsies. Scientists are more precise. Star Wars also starts out with "A long time ago..." :-)
swassontelus 5 months ago
@swassontelus
Lol. But that's how close historians got, at least the guy had some kind of "exact" point rather than saying "long time ago" when we can't prove that..
OVERCAPITALIZE 5 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE Likely. I was goofing on the fact, the guy quoted 2697 BC. Peace
swassontelus 5 months ago
@swassontelus
I remember learning in world history class that first people (groups of them..) started to explore out of Africa to the Middle East to Asia then to the Europe.
OVERCAPITALIZE 5 months ago
@Brandontrann Everyone has a game plan until you get a whap to the yap and a shot to the snot and this cutey is coming apart. Seeing Elvis in the Supermarket, leaning like the tower of Pizza.
swassontelus 7 months ago
@Brandontrann "Chinese were first..". How the sweet flying Samcow do you know that?
swassontelus 7 months ago
@eyesea Well said. These techniques go back before recorded history in many cases. There's no sense to attributing them to one art or another. They are independent of art and part of human history itself.
MrMZaccone 7 months ago
@Brandontrann Right. And before that Gilgamesh wrestled Enkidu so the mesopotamians were first. Except for those neaderthols wrestling other monkeys at the beginning of 2001 who were really first. Until the obilisk made them discover bones and spaceships.
redbulldog 8 months ago