John Cobb dies during attempt on water speed record

John Cobb dies during attempt on water speed record on Loch Ness. 2/10/52

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[jericho833]

he was a very brave man, R.I.P John Cobb - A great englishman

[fizzguts]

Wow. That is a very intense video. Many thanks for sharing this. John Cobb was a very brave man

[Bellerspitts]

Nessie wouldn't have any of it.

[schlusselmensch]

I think that might have been his bollocks that skipped along the furthest.

[jetpoweredgriffin]

@fizzguts

Lastly,

I do know that 200 and 300 are VERY different but it just baffles me how much money is spent on repetitious,conventional racing worldwide and how little is spent on the absolute records.

I know there's no prize money but explain this insanity

called TV commercials,especially at the Superbowl?

It's bound to get more exposure than what was spent tonight for any top company's TV ads on any main channel.

Thanks!

[jetpoweredgriffin]

@fizzguts

If you want to chat,we can communicate through email or Youtube's message system.

In contradistinction of the wing idea,

I believe that the right,slight skeg in the tail could help create drag that would keep the nose down.

Air rudder,though.

The main thing is that you don't want air build-up under the hull to lead to blowover

and there HAS to be something to bring the nose down

other than chopping the throttle which just exacerbates the effect.

I have an idea for for this.

[jetpoweredgriffin]

@fizzguts Not sure about the logistics concept comment. Those Thunderboats get around pretty well. I'd build and run at the same location,if I could. It just doesn't seem much faster than those boats are running in the oval over wakes. I understand aerodynamics- I also know that at Bonneville,approaching 400, only one wheel may be touching the ground at any given instant. I think that too big of a wing in the back is bad. It creates drag which lifts the nose.

[jetpoweredgriffin]

@fizzguts

I thought about the capsule because of what I heard about Craig.

I just figured that a ball would roll better and not catch an edge-

less likely to dig in,just bounce instead.

Need a chute,for sure,though!

[jetpoweredgriffin]

@fizzguts

Craig had problems with the steering,too-

he let off the throttle and up came the nose.

So I was told by one of the crew.

I wasn't there.

They had argued over the steering arrangement.

It seems to me a trim-able canard would do well to keep the nose down-

you're certainly far beyond any takeoff speed at 300.

Even a Blackbird would have lifted off by then.

[fizzguts]

@jetpoweredgriffin Bigger is better but the logistics cost etc etc go up by factors of 10 for a doubling in length.

The current world record holder (Ken Warby's boat Spirit of Australia) is a very elongated conventional 3 pointer but also had a big arse wing at the back to keep it level. Now Ken says he didn't really need it but back in the day according to the film of the attempt and his aerodynamic adviser Tom Fink it was a vital part of the success

[fizzguts]

@jetpoweredgriffin Balls are bulky. Flattened egg shape with flat surfaces fit the human body shape better, are much easier to build and offer less drag and speed is what it's about.

Craig Arfons boat was a stretched hydro. He went to fast to soon. It flew and killed him

A conventional Hydro is designed to almost hover with the canard wing at the front controlling the amount of lift. doubling the speed results in quadrupling the forces and you fly you die.

[jetpoweredgriffin]

@fizz

Why aren't safety capsules more ball-shaped?

Why hasn't someboody used a Turbine-powered

Unlimited Hydroplane and convert it to pure jet?

I know it's not as easy as that but it just seems to me that a bigger boat&bigger motor would be better.

I know from your comments that you favor Conventional over R3P but is there any specific reason nobody has tried?

They can be found for decent prices-

I don't see why nobody has even tried.

Maybe they have and I just don't know about it.