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[ChristianEastern]

@kiwichristian

Con'd

Finally I will close by saying you may have the last word if you like.

[ChristianEastern]

@ChristianEastern

(Con'd)

I wonder what church you belong to or if you do. Maybe you have decided that you're your own Pope and that there is nothing a preacher/sunday school teacher can teach you 'cuz you just KNOW what Scripture says.

For me I will continue to obey the teachings found in 2 Thessalonians 2:15 and 3:6, as well as follow the example of the Ethiopian Eunuch of Acts 8:30.

I can say that we have been at this for about 4 or 5 days and I getting pretty bored as you've no ears to hear

[ChristianEastern]

@kiwichristian2009

You are nitpicking. If Infants could not be surrendered in faith, Jesus would have agreed with his disciples rather than rebuke them.

Nothing the Orthodox church teaches is pagan, Many churches in the last few centuries have found excuses to break away from whatever mother church they had previously belonged to. Sometimes it is a sound reason (Continuing Anglicanism splitting from ultra liberal ECUSA) Other times it is for much less saintly reasons (power, money)

[kiwichristian2009]

@ChristianEastern Baptism is an ordinance, one of only two commanded by Christ, the other being to observe the Lords Supper.

[kiwichristian2009]

@Jesussavemeplease Again, show me any reference to IF in this passage.

[kiwichristian2009]

@ChristianEastern If anything, this passage says that children and infants already have heaven and do not need to be baptised.

[kiwichristian2009]

@ChristianEastern Then what is the purpose? Where does it say these children were baptized by Him? It doesn't. God says you must believe and then be baptized, so IB is ignoring that. You seem to ignore things in order to find excuses for your pagan and unbiblical practices.

[ChristianEastern]

@Jesussavemeplease

I have not blocked him and don't think I will. I don't have anything 'against' him nor do I think he has anything 'against' me. When I thought I might block him it's because some people on youtube (again not necessarily Kiwichristian) want to troll and argue for the heck of it. Also I have found that debates like these rarely end with a universally acknowledged winner, which I might add a Christian should not be dying to be declared.

God bless you too.

[ChristianEastern]

@kiwichristian2009

Maybe I should have not used the word cult, even though it is not originally a bad word. It used to be fairly generic like 'religion' was. I realize that most Baptist style religions do not teach this. I made mention of it to illustrate a point. The same churches tend to misrepresent what we teach. Baptism for one is not "works based salvation" or whatever term they want to use. It is a gift...

[ChristianEastern]

@kiwichristian2009

Mate I have already expalined that infant Baptism does not in any way imply eternal salvation.

15And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them. 16But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

You still have not shown that the Bible condemns IB, just that adult converts should be baptised.