Christian perfection vs sinless perfection

This video is dealing with the Christian perfection which is not Christian sinlessness. The Holiness movment teaches that committing an unknown sin does not have the same effect on the Christian relationship with the Holy Spirit that committing a known sin does. This is false.
The discipline is different but both result in a broken relationship. Only using 1Jn.1:9 can restore the fellowship.

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Education

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• Christian perfection
• sinless perfection
• Christian walk

[Walkinginthelight38]

“Another proof of the conquest of a soul for Christ will be found in a real change of life. If the man does not live differently from what he did before, both at home and abroad, his repentance needs to be repented of, and his conversion is a fiction. Not only action and language, but spirit and temper must be changed” -- Charles H. Spurgeon

[edwardpf123]

@Walkinginthelight38 -How much did Lot change his life? 

[obcentimeters]

Thank you brother as another voice that speaks the truth. Jesus clearly showed us that "sinless perfection" is from the Devil by the Prayers of the Pharisse and the Publican. The publican agreed with God that he is a sinner. If we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves and the truth is not in us. We, after seeing the Pharisee and Publican, call God a liar. We must be cleansed and this is a continious work of the Holy Spirit. Sinless perfection is Satanic and a doctrine of Demons. .

[boggymark1]

@AchreousD

As jjpetkusiii put it, "...the specious dogma that any man or woman can attain 'sinless perfection' is found nowhere in the Holy Bible." Melchisedec is unique also in that he had no parents, but that exludes the argument that he can be a proper type of regenerated believers in the Lord Jesus Christ who were born and born again.

According to the Scriptures, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us" (1John 1:8).

[dutchmcgee101]

@edwardpf123 thank you brother.

[opsvideo2008]

Praise God for your great explaination of God's word with regards christian perfection and debunking the heretical doctrine of sinless perfection. My biblical research using online concordances showed me that the word "perfect" as used in the bible actually means spiritual maturity, not the sinless perfection as understood by misguided people such as truegospelofchrist. By simply asking him whether he is living a sinless life, you've showed him the folly of his false belief & chased him away.

[toddpress]

Greeting. You make several good points. And yes, it is a worthy endeavor to live a life without sin, but its not possible. In fact, if we were able to live a sinless life, why would we need Jesus?

Watch this video - Sinlessness: Is It Biblical?

[tmilehorie]

"If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse." (Job 9:20) =)

[edwardpf123]

@AchreousD -'And it came to pass after these things that God did tempt Abraham' (Gen.22:1)

God tested Abraham's faith and Abraham passed the test since he believed what God had promised about Isaac being his heir (Heb.11:17-19)

Peace unto you as well.

[AchreousD]

@edwardpf123 Okay, but the bottomline God doesn't temp, test any man.... the Angel of the LORD tempted, tested or proved Abraham as it is written Gen 22:11-12 clearly shows it was an Angel seeking to see or understand Abraham level of faith towards God... Peace unto you

[edwardpf123]

@AchreousD -Abraham was TESTED (tried Heb.11:17). The word 'temptation' can mean either temptation to fall or testing to suceed. God never 'tempts' in the way Satan does, to ensare one in evil, nor can He be tempted. Christ, in his humanity, was tested by suffering and made perfect by them (Heb.2:10)

[AchreousD]

@Enoch2 What, are you serious?