Wow... ok lets go over this again. You are right. They are not trained anywhere NEAR as much as a physician... that is my point. Note I said "common infections". If you don't think nurse practitioners prescribe run of the mill antibiotics your are crazy.
The National Board of Medical Examiners made a heavily watered-down version of the USMLE Step 3 for nurse-practitioners to use, and 50% of you nurse-practitioners failed it. That’s right. Half of you guys failed it!
(Oh, and I should mention that the USMLE Step 3 is by far the easiest of the three USMLE licensing exams physicians are required to pass in order to practice medicine).
So don’t even go there, Bels. Don’t you dare suggest that NP’s are better trained than doctors.
You are absolutely wrong. It takes a physician to know when something is more serious than a “common infection”. Why? Because nurse-practitioners don’t have the extensive education that physicians do. Their education is much shorter and much less rigorous, so they simply don’t have the time to learn everything that a physician knows. As a result, they are not trained to deal with the more uncommon, more complex diseases, nor are they trained to recognize them.
Well. I see that everyone here is right. First off, NPs do not have the educational background that an MDs or DOs have. We can all agree on that. Primary care no longer necessitates this. If you have a common infection, a NP or PA can write you for amoxycillin. NPs and PAs deserve more, but not physician pay. The educational investment is much less. As for Troy... sounds like he might be a disgruntled patient. Troy your comment shows your lack of both experience and education.
You guys are a bunch of phony wanna bes. You are NOT medical doctors . You are not qualified to independently practice medicine . You should be reimbursed at 50% . How about that , you phony nurse .
@bels10 I'll call straw-man on that, but to take your bait: as someone who has 25 years experience, you should realize physicians do CME too. In fact, they're required to do 12-50 hours depending on state while RN's are required a max of 36 and none in some states. I don't understand what you're implying.
You fail to address any of my argument... but, on the other hand, it almost seems as though you're saying physician practice is sub-standard and... outdated? Really?
@zfellows I am an RN who has 25 years practice behind me .plus I am regulated by professional governance that maintains that I must attend a certain number of hours of updated training sessions per year. I work with Doctors who have still not passed our national standard exams to Qualify for public medical benefit exemption and they are still allowed to practice to what I see is sub standard and outdated practice. I think nursing education is more frequent, encouraged attended by nurses
...why should they be reimbursed the same as physicians if their training is drastically shorter and simpler than physicians' training? The primary care physician was required to learn all the little tidbits and nuances of medicine (read: science) that nurses skip; isn't it reasonable to conclude you're putting your health in the hands of someone at least marginally less capable when you go to an NP? So... why again should they be paid equally?
Wow... ok lets go over this again. You are right. They are not trained anywhere NEAR as much as a physician... that is my point. Note I said "common infections". If you don't think nurse practitioners prescribe run of the mill antibiotics your are crazy.
asclepius278 11 months ago
@bels10
The National Board of Medical Examiners made a heavily watered-down version of the USMLE Step 3 for nurse-practitioners to use, and 50% of you nurse-practitioners failed it. That’s right. Half of you guys failed it!
(Oh, and I should mention that the USMLE Step 3 is by far the easiest of the three USMLE licensing exams physicians are required to pass in order to practice medicine).
So don’t even go there, Bels. Don’t you dare suggest that NP’s are better trained than doctors.
DrSandmann 11 months ago
@asclepius278
You are absolutely wrong. It takes a physician to know when something is more serious than a “common infection”. Why? Because nurse-practitioners don’t have the extensive education that physicians do. Their education is much shorter and much less rigorous, so they simply don’t have the time to learn everything that a physician knows. As a result, they are not trained to deal with the more uncommon, more complex diseases, nor are they trained to recognize them.
DrSandmann 11 months ago
Well. I see that everyone here is right. First off, NPs do not have the educational background that an MDs or DOs have. We can all agree on that. Primary care no longer necessitates this. If you have a common infection, a NP or PA can write you for amoxycillin. NPs and PAs deserve more, but not physician pay. The educational investment is much less. As for Troy... sounds like he might be a disgruntled patient. Troy your comment shows your lack of both experience and education.
asclepius278 1 year ago
You guys are a bunch of phony wanna bes. You are NOT medical doctors . You are not qualified to independently practice medicine . You should be reimbursed at 50% . How about that , you phony nurse .
troy780 1 year ago
@bels10 I'll call straw-man on that, but to take your bait: as someone who has 25 years experience, you should realize physicians do CME too. In fact, they're required to do 12-50 hours depending on state while RN's are required a max of 36 and none in some states. I don't understand what you're implying.
You fail to address any of my argument... but, on the other hand, it almost seems as though you're saying physician practice is sub-standard and... outdated? Really?
zfellows 1 year ago
@zfellows I am an RN who has 25 years practice behind me .plus I am regulated by professional governance that maintains that I must attend a certain number of hours of updated training sessions per year. I work with Doctors who have still not passed our national standard exams to Qualify for public medical benefit exemption and they are still allowed to practice to what I see is sub standard and outdated practice. I think nursing education is more frequent, encouraged attended by nurses
bels10 1 year ago
...why should they be reimbursed the same as physicians if their training is drastically shorter and simpler than physicians' training? The primary care physician was required to learn all the little tidbits and nuances of medicine (read: science) that nurses skip; isn't it reasonable to conclude you're putting your health in the hands of someone at least marginally less capable when you go to an NP? So... why again should they be paid equally?
zfellows 1 year ago
Primary care pay for NPs sucks as it is, I'm all for them getting 100%.
spartaeus 2 years ago
Good work. Dr. Ford, though, is a NP.
luckynurse69 3 years ago