Barbara Forrest: The Woman Texas Creationists Don't Like#3

Barbara Forrest links to parts 1,2,4,& 5
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cwvE0owTmk
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_OLlAfmrQs
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSXxB7JEOOI
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E97GFmYNaFI

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[xxxjppjxxx]

Excellent video, 5 stars.

[Articorse]

that most of the morals our global society has come to accept are great - we should help each other whenever possible, we should never hurt each other, unless that leads to a net benefit in the long run, etc.

But as wonderful as these morals are, they're manmade.

And so is government. The original idea behind government, or at least your government, is to serve the people. Not to rule over them, but to uphold these very values we both cherish so much.

I believe your founding fathers had this

[JustAboutMyFaith]

@patrickledford420 Really ? And I'm supposed to take anything seriously coming from someone evidently on a perpetual 420 break ?

[lucyfanclub]

What an articulate and intelligent person.

[patrickledford420]

@JustAboutMyFaith you know "faith" means beleif without evidence right? you kinda make yourself look stupid or willfuly ignorant with that name

[abyssquick]

@JustAboutMyFaith - The word "probably" does not absolve the authoritarian intent of your last criticism, or it's unscientific nature. Still, you are ignoring my points entirely. Completely.

My age is irrelevant, suffice to say I'm not a "youngster." If you presume "being older" somehow makes opinions more valid... then I really don't know what to say. In my experience, intellectual depth depends on the -content- of what a person says (not the source's elevated consideration of itself).

[JustAboutMyFaith]

When I used the word "probably" I was being tentative then too. But now I see you are an impudent youngster.

[abyssquick]

@JustAboutMyFaith -- you need only wear the shoe if it fits. Obviously, I am going by impressions - hardly a fitting sample. Hence my tentative wording.

You yet overlooked my entire point, and deferred me to an argument from authority. "I'm probably older than you" is not in any sense scientific. It is actually the antithesis of the very scientific thinking you declare yourself to have cultivated thoroughly.

[JustAboutMyFaith]

I am not a religious fundamentalist. And I have studied evolution, natural history, theology, and American history for probably as many years as you've been alive.

[abyssquick]

@JustAboutMyFaith Yes, but the Deistic God of our founding fathers. This nation was founded at the height of Deism, which is a rather specific form of Theism. I don't think, judging from your opinions above, that using the founding fathers' use of the word "creator" is prudent historically, to support your point of view. these men were inventors, scientists, intellectuals. They certainly didn't have the fundamentalist sway you seem to have. I suggest taking interest in history, to remedy this.

[powerinstars6]

I love what she says about critical thinking.

[1Skeptik1]

Well done Barbara, insightful and honest, most refreshing.

Thank you.