Jesus is NOT the Christ-1John 2:22

John 8:54-55 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. (KJV)

1John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (KJV)

1Jn 2:22 τις εστιν ο ψευστης ει μη ο αρνουμενος οτι ιησους ουκ εστιν ο χριστος ουτος εστιν ο αντιχριστος ο αρνουμενος τον πατερα και τον υιον (Greek-TR)

1Jn 2:22 quis est mendax nisi is qui negat quoniam Iesus non est Christus hic est antichristus qui negat Patrem et Filium (Vulgate)

1Jn 2:22 τις εστιν ο ψευστης Who is the liar

ει μη ο αρνουμενος οτι
if not the one who denies that

ιησους ουκ εστιν ο χριστος
Jesus not is the Christ

Please understand that I have never claimed to be a language scholar. I am merely pointing this out to help motive others to study the Bible themselves. It is my personal belief that the Jesus described in the Bible is a fictional character, and that although the stories in the Bible may in fact contain some actual historical events, the main focus is to teach us spiritual truths, through the use of allegory, just as the ancient myths did.

Some argue that there is a double negative used in this verse, but it is NOT true. Now while they are correct that the construct "ου μη" (ou me), meaning "not not", IS a double negative in Greek, and is often used for emphasis, the fact remains that "ου μη" was not used in this verse. In English a double negative reverses the meaning of a phrase, and is considered bad grammar,(i.e.-"You don't not know") but, in Greek it is used for emphasis as in Matthew 5:18 where it is translated as "no wise" in the KJV. Again, "ου μη" is not used in this verse, or for that matter in any of the epistles of John.

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[jsmid]

Just would like to ask where is the text you got this from can you please post a link to the Greek text you found this in

[ForBibletruth]

@jsmid, Have you been able to find a Greek text that does NOT say this?

[lookingup82]

Do you believe in GOD but don't beleive Jesus is the Messiah? (The Anointed One, The Savior)? Who are you waiting for?

When JESUS was arrested....they asked who are you looking for...-He responded" I Am" 'he.'" He answered I AM.(Translators added 'he' for easier reading.).

[ForBibletruth]

@lookingup82, Jesus never existed. I have a 14 part series titled "Proof of Jesus?" which looks at every secular text that the Church claims as proof of his existence. I am to believe that the Son of God, walked the Earth, doing miracles daily, but, no one, except his followers, noticed him or thought it was worth writing about?

[tegaffer]

it says who is the liar if not he that denies that jesus/yashoua not is/is not the christos he is the anti christ that deny the father and the son word for word what i found

[sasatwood]

My texts also agree with this. Excellent study my friend. "Study to find thyself approved"....

[SPLENOROUS]

Jesus/Lucifer/occult = 74 = 11 represents the celestial twins from the FAMILY TREE which were forbbiden fruit/offspring. Lucifer as evil & Jesus as good aka good news. Eve said it LOOKED GOOD! We were NOT to partake of ANY of the FRUIT. Twins11+11=22=FIG! Israel is the FIG TREE as they hid their nakedness behind FIG LEAVES from the FIG TREE ie RELIGION as Christianity stems from Judaism as the serpent was in the midst/middle of the garden/earth which was planted eastward ie MIDDLE EAST! AWAKENED

[tria68]

Amen! brother PREACH!!

[ForBibletruth]

@lookingup82, It is really foolish for Christians to be claiming that there is a double negative in this verse, because that would only add more emphasis on the clause stating that Jesus is NOT the Messiah.

[ForBibletruth]

@lookingup82, If we were to find your above example in Greek, both "nots" refer to the verb "am", and both "nots" would be combined for emphasis, and we would translated the sentence as " I am not a woman" or to convey the original idea of the Greek, we could say, "I am in no way a woman". However, back to the verse in 1 John 2:22. The first negative, is part of the constuct "ει μη" (if not), and this is not in the same clause of the sentence, and it is certainly not referring to Jesus.