John Piper says listen to your screaming inner voice

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John Piper from Desiring God says unbelievers have the voice of God in their hearts. Ask yourself. Isn't this leading people to listen to their own hearts and not the Bible? "The heart is deceitful above all things." (Jer 17:9). Are Piper's comments supported by Romans 1 or Romans 2? No. See... http://Godnoliar.com/rom1.htm and http://Godnoliar.com/rom2.htm

Response to Tim Mcneely : G'day Tim! Thanks for your feedback. You're right that Romans 1 says everyone knows about God. But the question is HOW do they know about God. Do unbelievers 1) have the knowledge of God deep down in their hearts (as Piper says) or 2) do unbelievers merely HEAR about God. Now, Piper teaches point #1, that is -- unbelievers deep down know the True God created the worlds.

But how does Piper deal with Hebrews 11:3? This verse says it is by FAITH we understand the worlds were framed by the Word of God. And unbelievers do NOT have faith. Therefore unbelievers do NOT understand the worlds were created by God.

Take for example Arminians who say that a man created the world. Their god is a changeable, weak, helpless being (a man) that cannot do what he wants to do. He wants everyone to be saved but utterly fails to accomplish what he wants. So they believe a pathetic idol/man created the worlds. Deep down they have NO IDEA who the True God is, because he is the opposite to their god -- the true God "works all things according to the counsel of his own will" (Eph1:11), "creates evil" (Isa45:7) and who achieves everything he wants.

Clearly most people think a man created the worlds. If they think otherwise, why do they always depict their "god" as a man? Moreover, why does their "god" act just like a man? Their god only saves people who are first "accept him" but rejects those who "reject him". This is not a divine being but a being that operates just like humans.

The True God is totally different. "The nations which sought after unrighteousness have obtained righteousness" (Rom 9). He is the only being who requires absolutely NOTHING from others. He gives righteousness to the thief on the cross and damns billions of moral, sincere, dedicated people.

Ask most "Christians" if they believe in the God who wants/needs nothing from mankind but gives chosen men a perfect righteousness. Most "Christians" do NOT believe in this God, but they believe in some contradictory being which does not exist (since their being is contradictory -- he is not perfect -- he cannot God).

Clearly most people believe in a god of their own imagination.

And they will continue to as long as they follow Piper's advice -- "listen to your inner voice". (That is like saying "follow the god of your own imaginations").

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[2corinthians710]

when he talks about listening to your "inner voice", he's talkin about your god-given conscience, he isnt promoting that godless philosophy of listening to your heart.

[fight2kill34]

wow andrew your crazy, you hate driscoll and piper and probly every1 who truly love God and thinks the Bible is 100% God breathed. so my question is what are you? what do you believe?

[TheRyan019]

Dude seriously !!! This why as Christians we can't be United in the faith, because of people like you 1 Tim 6:3-5) If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who sup

[timdnoincumbents]

Romans is clear that everyone knows Christ. That He is Lord. They reject His love. Piper is on the mark.

[outofthebox7]

"Piper".... as in.... Mmm...

Please read the two articles on calvinism herewww.ipertisalithias.gr/pag­e5.htmland pass it on. May God keep you in His truth.

[lewecca]

whoever made this video is obviously just nit picking. i wana hear the rest of these sermons...not bits and pieces... even Hitler took out what he wanted to hear from scripture alone.

[evewale]

Why do Calvinist contradict themselves? First they teach total depravity that we can not even attempt to seek God without God first moving in our lives YET John Piper is stating that an unbeliever realizes his need for a Savior from being created in God's image

[ManxMistress]

30 minutes with me and my floggers and this idiot would be screaming with more than his inner voice, how can any sane person believe all this clap trap about a fictional being

[Danny2Lisa]

@AndrewcBain Maybe you should read Romans 2 and stop worshiping the Bible and start worshiping the God of the Bible. It says that our consciences are that inner voice which bear witness to the law being written on our hearts.

[debijo54]

you obviously don't know john piper and what he teaches.

he is all about the truth of the word.

you are really judging with unsound judgement.

[Rexxfalcon2]

@AndrewcBain your twisting was hes trying to get across....hes briefly stating how our inner conscience makes us feel guilty. NOT that we should listen to our heart in do what we think is right. Do you have some kind of grudge against this man or something. Its evident that hes a man of God.

[TheTurkey01]

argument fail