@rs200000000000 I should add that we also have some interior "colour renders" here; "Venetian plaster" seems to be the most common term for them. I don't know much about them, but you see them a lot in restaurants and, I'm sure, some upscale houses.
@rs200000000000 Yes, they seem similar to EIFS and Dryvit which are popular along with traditional 3 coat stucco and systems that use render over cement board. They're all used across the country for commercial buildings, and also on residential development toward the SW. In the NE, there is still a strong preference for housing clad in anything that looks sort of like wood, which often means hideous vinyl (uPVC) siding. I hope that changes soon.
@lrd9999 well generally you dont wall paper over good plaster work just paint it with gloss paint, it all depends on what people want i guess different practices in different countries, do you guys do any colour renders like Krend or STO over there ?
@rs2 Putting a "rough trowel" finish on drywall was sort of a fad here in the '70s and '80s; I never saw the point of it. But that shiny, glassy finish is really impressive; I'm sure it takes much more skill than most others. If I paid for that, though, I'd be inclined to put a clear, or tinted finish on it; can't see burying it under rolled-on latex paint or wallpaper, just to look like the DIY job next door.
@lrd9999 i suppose plastering is different in ozz land as its alot hotter there as with european countries like france and italy they dont even finish there palster they lay it on and leave it, and it looks rough as hell,plastering is a big thing here as people most of the time dont want tap and jointed walls as well its just not a quality product its bwhat is used on cheap housing estates and tourblocks ect, most want plastering done the old fassioned way, i can shine plaster like glas
@lrd9999 the way its done here depends on the backing suface, houses lioke my house for example is built completely from blocks (as most houses over 50 years old are or brick or stone) then with the internal walls you float and set (render them with sand and cement or thistle hard wall) and then two coat plaster over that with two coats of multi finish plaster (like a brown pink colour) or you could dot and dab the walls and two coat plaster that
@rs2.. I've seen walls like that, where they just butter the tape and leave air under it (yuk). I've also seen ones where the joints are just as solid and flat as the board. I do miss the solid feel of the plastering they did 60 years ago, with 2 gray coats over wire or 1 gray coat over rock-lathe (don't know how common the latter was "over there"), then a hard finish coat over that. Skim over drywall might look like that, but I think it feels more like drywall.
@rs200000000000 It's probably the same as here in the US. They only skim if there's some reason not to just tape&joint: if they have to get in and out in one day, if there's direct light exposure and they don't trust the tapers to get it smooth enough or if the drywall pieces are not quite level for some reason. We've all seen bad jobs of both, but if either is done perfectly, you can't tell the difference.
@rs200000000000 I should add that we also have some interior "colour renders" here; "Venetian plaster" seems to be the most common term for them. I don't know much about them, but you see them a lot in restaurants and, I'm sure, some upscale houses.
lrd9999 1 week ago
@rs200000000000 Yes, they seem similar to EIFS and Dryvit which are popular along with traditional 3 coat stucco and systems that use render over cement board. They're all used across the country for commercial buildings, and also on residential development toward the SW. In the NE, there is still a strong preference for housing clad in anything that looks sort of like wood, which often means hideous vinyl (uPVC) siding. I hope that changes soon.
lrd9999 1 week ago
@lrd9999 well generally you dont wall paper over good plaster work just paint it with gloss paint, it all depends on what people want i guess different practices in different countries, do you guys do any colour renders like Krend or STO over there ?
rs200000000000 1 week ago
@rs2 Putting a "rough trowel" finish on drywall was sort of a fad here in the '70s and '80s; I never saw the point of it. But that shiny, glassy finish is really impressive; I'm sure it takes much more skill than most others. If I paid for that, though, I'd be inclined to put a clear, or tinted finish on it; can't see burying it under rolled-on latex paint or wallpaper, just to look like the DIY job next door.
lrd9999 1 week ago
@lrd9999 i suppose plastering is different in ozz land as its alot hotter there as with european countries like france and italy they dont even finish there palster they lay it on and leave it, and it looks rough as hell,plastering is a big thing here as people most of the time dont want tap and jointed walls as well its just not a quality product its bwhat is used on cheap housing estates and tourblocks ect, most want plastering done the old fassioned way, i can shine plaster like glas
rs200000000000 2 weeks ago
@lrd9999 the way its done here depends on the backing suface, houses lioke my house for example is built completely from blocks (as most houses over 50 years old are or brick or stone) then with the internal walls you float and set (render them with sand and cement or thistle hard wall) and then two coat plaster over that with two coats of multi finish plaster (like a brown pink colour) or you could dot and dab the walls and two coat plaster that
rs200000000000 2 weeks ago
@rs2.. I've seen walls like that, where they just butter the tape and leave air under it (yuk). I've also seen ones where the joints are just as solid and flat as the board. I do miss the solid feel of the plastering they did 60 years ago, with 2 gray coats over wire or 1 gray coat over rock-lathe (don't know how common the latter was "over there"), then a hard finish coat over that. Skim over drywall might look like that, but I think it feels more like drywall.
lrd9999 2 weeks ago
@lrd9999 i can spot a tape and jointed wall easy you touch it and you feel like your hand is gonna go through it, its not a trade
rs200000000000 2 weeks ago
@rs200000000000 It's probably the same as here in the US. They only skim if there's some reason not to just tape&joint: if they have to get in and out in one day, if there's direct light exposure and they don't trust the tapers to get it smooth enough or if the drywall pieces are not quite level for some reason. We've all seen bad jobs of both, but if either is done perfectly, you can't tell the difference.
lrd9999 2 weeks ago
you fcking poms aint got a clue have ya ... we gave skimming away back in the 70's ya fcking gimps
why cany ya get a visa ...coz your a pom now fuckoff
xXsnitchyXx 1 month ago