@LeComte13 MY last teacher was an internationally known martial arts figure. Every year he held an international camp. He invited the chief instructors from Shito ryu and Goju ryu and I had the honor of training with them. He refused to invite Wado ryu. I do not know his reasons but having seen some of it I personally could not practice it. That is all I will say about it because I simply do not know enough to say anything else.
Very interesting, thanks for answering. I know nothing about the Marines but i've tried to sudy a little bit of the creation of russian combat techniques, the majority of which were focused on military combat, they have inherited many chinese and japanese techniques from Jujutsu, Aikido, Karate, Kung fu and others, but they completely lost the Eastern philosophy, that is why I say they are not martial arts but combat systems. One more question: what about Wado-ryu?
@LeComte13 As you may see from my profile, I am a former US Marine. Martial arts are combative arts by their very definition. Don't confuse modern combat with period realities. You may be interested to know the US Marines martial art program is patterned largely from traditional Okinawan karate.
@LeComte13 The WKF, WUKO etc are all money machines and not tradition focused. I could not care less for them. I trust karate to Okinawans only. The Japanese are prone to change it for nationalistic reasons and invalidate it as true karate. The west will do anything for money and ego and could screw up a 150 pound anvil. America is literally filled with frauds, want-to-bes, crooks and charlatans that sell junk to the public and call it karate. Speaking of frauds, look in the white house. OSU!!
@LeComte13 Yes, when I say JKA I include the lineages. The shotokan that evolved into the JKA is a sport. It has excellent core technique with good dynamics. Unfortunately, as a sport it allowed many good tactics, primal techniques and practices to fall through the cracks. It also has several contrived, tactically unusable techniques. I do not regard it as karate for that reason. I have studied Goju ryu, I like Uechi ryu and to a lesser degree Shito ryu, I have trained with Mibune sensei.
i suppose when you say JKA, you also mean SKIF, JKS and other japanese-international federations based on only one style (usually Shotokan)
What is your opinion of Shotokan? (i mean shotokan and not the Shuri-te style that Funakoshi practised before yoshitaka began to introduce changes)
I suppose you have studied Goju Ryu, maybe also Uechi Ryu. Have you seen Shito ryu? would you like to give your opinon about it? I suppose there' s no need of asking your opinion about WKF. Oss
And my answer about what katas are for was an explanation to someone who (i a thought) knows nothing about karate and tries to find in it same "realism" as in Kick-boxing or something like that.
Anyhow I did not expect you to be impressed, since i am not trying to impress you.
However you did impress me (though I do not totally agree with you).
@IEKUKATAKA Of course I meant that karate has nothing to do with sport.
I do not agree with you about military combat techniques and martial art, sorry. As you may see regarding my name, I am russian and I have trained SamBo and what they call hand to hand combat (you can find it in wikipedia if you don't know what it is ) and both systems have nothing to do with martial arts such as Kung fu, Aikido, Ju jutstu (japanese jujutsu of course)
Meu katá sempree!
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TheNonfat 1 year ago
@LeComte13 MY last teacher was an internationally known martial arts figure. Every year he held an international camp. He invited the chief instructors from Shito ryu and Goju ryu and I had the honor of training with them. He refused to invite Wado ryu. I do not know his reasons but having seen some of it I personally could not practice it. That is all I will say about it because I simply do not know enough to say anything else.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA
Very interesting, thanks for answering. I know nothing about the Marines but i've tried to sudy a little bit of the creation of russian combat techniques, the majority of which were focused on military combat, they have inherited many chinese and japanese techniques from Jujutsu, Aikido, Karate, Kung fu and others, but they completely lost the Eastern philosophy, that is why I say they are not martial arts but combat systems. One more question: what about Wado-ryu?
Oss!
LeComte13 1 year ago
@LeComte13 As you may see from my profile, I am a former US Marine. Martial arts are combative arts by their very definition. Don't confuse modern combat with period realities. You may be interested to know the US Marines martial art program is patterned largely from traditional Okinawan karate.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@LeComte13 The WKF, WUKO etc are all money machines and not tradition focused. I could not care less for them. I trust karate to Okinawans only. The Japanese are prone to change it for nationalistic reasons and invalidate it as true karate. The west will do anything for money and ego and could screw up a 150 pound anvil. America is literally filled with frauds, want-to-bes, crooks and charlatans that sell junk to the public and call it karate. Speaking of frauds, look in the white house. OSU!!
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@LeComte13 Yes, when I say JKA I include the lineages. The shotokan that evolved into the JKA is a sport. It has excellent core technique with good dynamics. Unfortunately, as a sport it allowed many good tactics, primal techniques and practices to fall through the cracks. It also has several contrived, tactically unusable techniques. I do not regard it as karate for that reason. I have studied Goju ryu, I like Uechi ryu and to a lesser degree Shito ryu, I have trained with Mibune sensei.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA
i suppose when you say JKA, you also mean SKIF, JKS and other japanese-international federations based on only one style (usually Shotokan)
What is your opinion of Shotokan? (i mean shotokan and not the Shuri-te style that Funakoshi practised before yoshitaka began to introduce changes)
I suppose you have studied Goju Ryu, maybe also Uechi Ryu. Have you seen Shito ryu? would you like to give your opinon about it? I suppose there' s no need of asking your opinion about WKF. Oss
LeComte13 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA
And my answer about what katas are for was an explanation to someone who (i a thought) knows nothing about karate and tries to find in it same "realism" as in Kick-boxing or something like that.
Anyhow I did not expect you to be impressed, since i am not trying to impress you.
However you did impress me (though I do not totally agree with you).
Oss
LeComte13 1 year ago
@IEKUKATAKA Of course I meant that karate has nothing to do with sport.
I do not agree with you about military combat techniques and martial art, sorry. As you may see regarding my name, I am russian and I have trained SamBo and what they call hand to hand combat (you can find it in wikipedia if you don't know what it is ) and both systems have nothing to do with martial arts such as Kung fu, Aikido, Ju jutstu (japanese jujutsu of course)
LeComte13 1 year ago