(6 of 14) ITS WRONG TO PAY FOR SEX DEBATE - CATHARINE MACKINNON

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[superotter77]

for women who "choose" to be sex workers, or somehow think it's empowering, i ask if they a) dreamed of being a hooker when they were little girls, and b) would want their daughters to be hookers when they grow up.

Catharine MacKinnon articulates the argument SO powerfully and articulately, 8 thumbs up!

[jill198751]

she is awesome!!! I like her!!

[GirlonFilm1969]

Yep, it's 'you do what I say'. As long as there's money involved there is obviously an inherent power imbalance.

[superotter77]

@jbond5150 good point, yeah the same could be said for reform. my anti-prostitution view is in light of the groups of women who are directly or indirectly forced into this work due to lack of other options as i think sex work is not an option in such a scenario, but for the women (& men & trans people) who enjoy sex work and/or feel it's empowering and so on, then more power to them & sure reform would benefit this group.

[jbond5150]

@superotter77 maybe there is no dream of being a hooker due to social constructs. if so, wouldnt that be just as good an argument for a change in the construct?

[voneinemkindgefict]

@karlsmith00 Do you own a pair of Garfield slippers? How many articles of clothing do you own with Winnie the Pooh characters on them?

[karlsmith00]

@voneinemkindgefict nobody has ever turned me down, sweetie. men will poke anything. you know that.

btw, how original! trying to insult me by saying that i'm a homosexual, as if that's the worst insult there is. good one.

get back to raping your real doll.

[voneinemkindgefict]

@karlsmith00  So how many men turned you down before you became a lesbian?

[karlsmith00]

@voneinemkindgefict yes, i wish. i wish i lashed out in violence when i didn't get my way. i wish i was a man in saudi arabia, where i could marry a 9 year old. i wish i was a man in the congo, where i could rape multiple times a day. i wish i was a man so i could commit violent crime.

i've never been the victim of any crime. you're just an irrational stupid boy, and you shouldn't be allowed to use a computer. there is no second life.

get a job, pig. nobody cares what you think.

[voneinemkindgefict]

@karlsmith00 You are only angry because you are not a man and you wish that you were a man.  If you are a good woman in this life then maybe in your next life you can be a man. Its pretty clear that you got raped and that was probably the last time you made someone else happy.

[karlsmith00]

@voneinemkindgefict even if men were not pigs? AT LEAST YOU ADMIT THEY ARE PIGS.

i know. women make up the majority of college graduates and the workforce. we'll do anything!

men control women because they're fucking animals with insecure egos. that's what's going on in saudi arabia, afghanistan, the congo. you know nothing. and on top of that, you're racist too. what a prince! then you wonder why nobody wants you.

commit suicide. you should have been an abortion.

[voneinemkindgefict]

@karlsmith00 Its great that someone taught you how to read and write, but it still doesn't mean you have something to say. Even if men were not pigs, hookers would be around because women will do anything for shiny things. Small minds think alike and think predictably. That is how men control women. Women bitch out and flip out sort of like blacks because they have small minds.