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Uploaded by on Sep 16, 2006

Just a little clip from a public elementary school in Peru where we shared the gospel and saw 100 come to Christ. We gave out app. 150 New Testaments donated by The Gideons in Peru.

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  • Actually it's not ridiculous and it's apparent you havent studied world religions either. Hinduism says everything is part of the "one" impersonal absolute..thus no distinctions between good and evil. Islam borrowed from OT Judaism. Christianity is based on Judaism and is fulfillment of Judaism. Christianity is only worldview that make sense of ultimate justice, a personal God that holds people accountable for their sins. BTW God of the Bible pre-existed all religions...

  • True, I haven't studied the mind-body problem because philosophy isn't my thing. Since you offer, I would like some examples illustrating the existence of a soul, please.

    And name dropping doesn't fly with me, sorry. I'm more interested in reproducible fact :)

  • I saw your point, and it's a ridiculous claim; no, they don't. I am fully capable of understanding such relative moral concepts such as "right" and "wrong" without Christianity, as are Muslims, Hindu, Jews, Sikhs...

    Just because the words imply something to you, does not mean they imply the same things to everybody.

    Christianity is not the earliest religion to claim morality; Hinduism is considered far older and has the same concepts of "right" and "wrong", are you in fact borrowing from them?

  • I can see you have not really studied the mind-body problem, i.e. dualism. Emotions, which are not localized to any part of the body can cause physical correlating events. I "the soul" can act on my brain to cause a physical response. If you want more examples, i can give them.

    Just a few Christian scientists that modern science depends upon: Johannes Kepler -planet motion, James Maxwell-electromagnetic field, Robert Boyle-founded modern chemistry, there are dozens more if you're interested

  • You completely missed my point...by being Christian words, I am implying they only make sense in light of a Christian worldview, they imply moral objectivity and intelligence behind creation, therefore to use them is to be borrowing from the Christian worldview.

  • Thanks for your responses :)

    I can't vouch for education much here in the UK as I've been at Uni over a decade now!

    I'm really intrigued at your stance, and the facts with which you support it; I'll PM you so we can hopefully continue in more detail without a 500 character limit :)

  • @QuadError

    When evidence pointed elsewhere or was even disproved scientists here still teach the fallacies. Not to mention such experiments as Miller-Urey which aren't critically analyzed despite the various flaws and unaswered questions.

    These issues and many more led to me to question and I later came to have faith in Jesus Christ.

    If an actual fact did contradict my faith I'd have to reconsider or search for answers but thusfar no FACTS, only highly questionable theories have.

  • @QuadError

    I've been enjoying the conversations as well. What I'm disappointed with is that you would accuse me of not using scientific process when I clearly stated scientific facts and opinions throughout the posts.

    I studied science to deduce that there were horrible gaps and inaccuracies in evolutionary theory.

    Maybe in UK you've stopped teaching the fallacies but here they still teach prehensivle tails in the womb, LUCY and australopithecines, Grand Canyon formed over ions, etc...

  • Regarding thoughts being immaterial and related to electric impulses; true, I only have made that assumption based on peer-reviewed sources. I think of it much like this web page; immaterial as light moving to your eyes, but comprised elsewhere of electrical charge and magnetic state which one can measure.

    Regarding science being dependant on Christianity, I'd reply to that specifically if only I could stop laughing, particularly after TheAtheistAntidote peddled that risibility recently :)

  • I hate to point this out, but neither "design" nor "wrong" are Christian words. They're English words, and applicable regardless of the religious stance of their speaker.

    Unless Christianity has its own language, of course, which would explain a lot of our misunderstandings.

    I could understand, however, if you were talking about people saying "Oh, God." I tend to do so for purely ironic reasons, but I've known a few women who used it in other contexts.

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