Dr. Craig Responds... Sort of.

My argument:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRn-mVPIl60

Craig's FB response:
http://www.facebook.com/williamlanecraig/posts/227577413925318

For the record I am using different terminology in this video than my last, in order to accommodate Craig's own choice of words. "Efficient Cause" may be seen as synonymous with my "A" in the last video, and "Material Cause" synonymous with "B".

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[TheNameIsUnimportant]

@theDracoIX You call it "ridiculous", because it cannot be squared with a 19th century understanding of the univese. You talk about an "infite regress of past events" thereby suggesting an A-theory of time. You refer to immaterial agent-causation thereby implying an interactionist mind-body dualism. And you use "something cannot come from nothing" considering a metaphysical "nothingness" which we can not even positively describe. There is a reason why these concepts are pretty much dead by now.

[Tobytrim]

I have to admit TBS, I haven't been fully following your "stalking" of Craig fallacious "Kalam cosmology" argument, though I did catch some of his later takes on your, presumably satirical, "Kalam argument for the "NON existence of God".

W.L.C's defence seem to be an arrogant and unexplained dismissal of your thinking skills, and a critique of your propositions which negates his own original Kalam argument.

My question: Why are you bothering with this intellectually dishonest little turd?

[qonf]

Dude, make more vids please!

[Tobytrim]

@VibrasoulARA Without even checking my own comment, which you responded to here, I would say that is a fair comment.

[VibrasoulARA]

@VibrasoulARA ... to human and societal well-being and which we can confidently (on the basis of sound and verifiable evidence) and wholeheartedly uphold in the name of peace and solidarity. Just a thought, hope my point came across.

Gj TBS, very informative as usual. (Y)

[VibrasoulARA]

@Tobytrim I don't want to misrepresent TBS, but after watching a few of his videos, it would seem to me that he's arguing more broadly for the promotion of honest inquiry in global society that is ultimately a catalyst to humanity's progress. Wouldn't you agree that by being honest with ourselves and towards others intellectually, and by challenging those that are clearly misguided, we might finally come to a consensus on which beliefs or subjective values are outright deleterious...

[machinedean100]

@Sheri159 IDK ask him its apart of his argument. His anti kalam argument begins with nothing which exists. 

[Sheri159]

@machinedean100 how could nothingness exist?

[machinedean100]

The problem with your argument is if nothing does exist. Then you do have a material cause. Nothing would then qualify as material. Stop playing stupid arse hole. I see you O.O!

[tsunami770]

Hey TheoBS you must have figured out by now that WLC has a very lucrative business selling books to comfort his followers. It is why he refers you to his "work" or books. I have seen WLC say on video that even if he was faced with absolute proof that his god did not exist he would still never the less dispute it on HIS faith. So kind of pointless to try plus he makes too much money selling books to scared souls who crave his comforting philosphy (nutty as it is).