Double-stroke roll using Moeller Method

Here I demonstrate how to perform a double-stroke roll employing some of the fundamentals of the Moeller Method.

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• instructional
• double-stroke
• roll
• moeller
• method
• technique

[Hillomonster]

not meoller technique but this is a good way to practice double stroke roll . See Jojo Mayer videos and there is a good one bu Jim Chapin on the three stroke Moeller . Nice roll though. Sticking is very high seems like you could go faster if you didn't waste time going back so far , but still..a good roll.

[Solomoreno]

@Hillomonster Thanks for your comments. Let me just say that not "going back so far" would diminish the volume. Sure, any can play excessively fast two inches off of the drum! I was trying to display equal parts speed, control, power and endurance.

[Rrrrobbo]

hey man hows it goin, ive been playing for about 9 months now, ive managed to develop my double stroke considerably over the past few weeks however, im not sure what my technique would be called, i throw the stick down somewhat, i hold my hands as you do in this, after the first bounce i flick the stick back with my fingers, at higher tempos i have to move my wrists but i cant go that fast i can do 32ths at about 80bpm, what is the difference between the moeller and my finger flick method?!

[Solomoreno]

It's difficult to say without seeing you play. I think I understand what you mean by "finger flick" and I think I do the same thing, i.e. I use my fingers but only up to a certain tempo. Once I really get going though, I simply catch the bounce on my way back up. The trick is, as my drum instructor used to say, getting out of the way of the stick. Are your wrists limber as hell? Are you using your whole arm as I do?

[yehboyjor88]

is there an advantage of using this method over the regular one?

[Solomoreno]

I'm not entirely sure what the "regular one" is. The advantage of using the Moeller method and its fundamentals is that you can play harder, faster, and longer with far more deft than the average drummer.

[drummerkingmike]

Not moeller at all man. Moeller is all about the motion of the wrist - which you're doing none of in that.

Don't get me wrong, a nice clean sounding roll you've got there... but its just not moeller technique!

[beatsandthings]

awesome! just one question i always get told not to use the fingers in german grip what are your thoughts on this?

[kungfuninja55]

youve got a loud overtone on that drum.

[150pokemonred]

All I have to say is dang That's pretty fast for going up that HIGH.

[adderton8]

My band teacher would stick my drum stick up my butt if he saw me Pick my sticks up that High!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[joeyisfunny]

Holy shit!

[cupcakemania4]

Im doing everything u said but i cant get it right

[regaltip8A]

Sorry but Moeller is all about natural rebound.You have got it wrong. I studied with Chad Wackerman for three years and if I played a double stroke roll with the amount of wasted energy displayed by yourself he would have kicked my ass. If you are going to post these type of videos you should really do your homework.Sorry close but not close enough.

[715adub]

so when you start getting to faster speeds..what are you doing? After a certain speed you can't really use your fingers, but just throwing the stick down and letting it flop both strokes out usually sounds like butt..just trying to figure out what happens at the really fast speeds?

[trigapula]

sticks way to high but clean roll

[stevenkerg]

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