Russell Oberlin explica o que é um contratenor
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@kiagguduh euh, falo português, mas ainda nao tenho escrito muitas messagens cá em português :-). Obrigado pela confussao! :-D E nao se preocupe, prefiro que voce tenha contestado em port.
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@amatorynumber Never mind, your portuguese is ok. I'm sorry. I thought you were a Brazilian Portuguese speaker. Anyway, you sound to have got exactly what I meant. Hugs
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@kiagguduh Se o ouvir, nao ia compreender nada :-) Si, acho que é assim, a questao é que eles gostam de sentir-se diferentes, mas em realidade, sao falsetistas como todos os outros. Desculpe o meu horrivel português.
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@amatorynumber Talvez vc tenha razão mesmo. Parece que esses caras como Maniaci e Oberlin gostam de dizer que não cantam em falsete, pois gostam de ser vistos como jóias raras, aberrações, com um dote incomum. Mas eu prefiro o som da chamada voz mista, mais cheio. Pelo que entendo, a voz mista é uma questão de técnica, ensinada por escolas como as de Seth Riggs e Brett Manning. Se for assim mesmo, então tudo é uma questão de estudo, não de talento inato. Que o Oberlin não me ouça... rsrs
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But it's not the same...I've done extensive research on this (I'm a dramatic tenor with an extension to soprano high C) and I've even had to go get my vocal cords checked out with a doctor to prove people falsetto and head voice are not the same thing and function in different ways. Even David Daniels has said the voice he uses to sing the countertenor repertoire is not the same as he did to sing tenor in La Boheme (when he was studying).
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@primohomme Of course that is the relation and I find it very interesting, that is all. Oberlin didn't want to sing in falsetto because of this mid XX century perception. In England nobody gave a damn because there wasn't that 'connection'. I agree with you in that. You just explained, by the way, the vocal mechanism of the well developed falsetto of modern countertenors. (Sad, I had to clarify 'modern')
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There is only a relation because of socio-cultural perceptions, nothing more
And perhaps gays are more willing to take a risk and sing in a range most associate with females
But singing in falsetto v/s singing in mix head voice is not a matter of sexuality, it's a matter of vocal registration, and there is a HUGE difference, it's not a matter of "more support", it's a matter of the cord contacting on its edges with one or thinning out and slimming down and making full contact
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@primohomme I can't tell the difference between HIS, because there is none. And I can have whatever obsession I please, if indeed it is one. For your personal information, there is quite a relation between the two, if indeed only because of the historical context. Maybe later in the XXI century there will be none, hopefully.
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If you can't tell the difference between falsetto and head voice/mix you need to take a seat
And what's your obsession with countertenors and gays? damn...you need help.
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@kiagguduh Michael Maniaci canta em falsete, é obio. Escute-o mais uma vez.
What a gentle, charming man: such a kind smile, and such beautiful enunciation - notice that he pronounces 't' as 't' and not as 'd' as the majority of Americans do.
A fascinating interview with one of the greatest forerunners of today's fascination with the countertenor voice. Bravo, Mr Oberlin!
zimnaya 2 years ago 5
Would u guys shutup please! WHY WHY must u quibble over how he is producing his sound? He is a musician of the highest regard. Please comment on his artistry and what he is singing, why don't u? Geez!
rlee1976 3 years ago 2