Frank Turek vs Christopher Hitchens 11

The second debate between Frank Turek (author of I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist) and Christopher Hitchens (author of God is not Great). The question of this debate was "What Best Explains Reality: Atheism or Theism? and was recorded at The College of New Jersey; 31st March, 2009.

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[TakashiMinamori]

1 Dislike.

Frank Turek.

[slimjim33332]

Frank Turek keeps applying causality to say the universe must have a cause called god. Causality is a principle/law or whatever, derived through knowledge and observation of the universe like for example gravity or whatever other physical law you can think of. You can't apply a law or principle of the unverse outside it; you cant say if the principle of causality applies outside the universe!

[WalangDiyos]

What an idiotic title for a book "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist".

[brajamtho757]

You can tell these guys hate each other.

[adknerr]

Turek's basketball example is so fail. The basketball stops bouncing because energy is transferred into heat and sound. This is not a closed system. If we are including the entire universe in the system, it is closed, as far as we can determine it for now, so the energy does remain within the universe. A 2nd big bang certainly can happen, but not likely. More likely will be a very boring, cold, non-kinetic / static expanded universe. Sucks, but is likely true.

[superlativewoman]

@TakashiMinamori id like frank turek to be forcibly educated about evolution and science since he cannot help but give his own ugly disfigured versions

[girtkaz]

3:33 and following is a lie on Hichens part:-)

[alawrence89]

@slimjim33332 I don't see the problem here. Would you say that laws of logic (only discovered to be applicable "inside" the universe/ I like with and without as opposed to inside and outside) aren't applicable "outside" the universe? I can't say that 'if X then Y, X, therefore Y' "outside" of the universe? Big Bang Cosmology suggest the universe had a beginning. What's responsible? Nothing? (Be aware that I'm not arguing for Christianity).

[iz2sicc]

Good god Turek's basketball analogy was horrid.

[flubno]

I tried to read Turek's book and keep an open mind and not judge him to hard because his opinion are different than mine. The the book was bad, it was "I dint have enough faith to be an atheist". He just plays samantics in a very poor and unconvincing way thru most of the book. Totally dedicated to his faith in a myopic way. He seems more concerned to defend his christan culture witch he love than making some hard hitting points. He just stays in his small box

[jlmdfnbo]

0:59 Hitchens -> Challenge accepted.

[Tobytrim]

Turek is an idiot.

Doesn't he see the flaw in his understanding of physics, when he applies the 2nd law of thermodynamics to the WHOLE universe, which is a closed system, containing ALL the mass and energy of itself?

Any energy absorbed or "lost" into the system would still be there within the universe, therefore nothing would be lost and the laws of conservation and entropy, would not apply.

Silly man! If this debate was with a scientist he'd be walking out of there very red-faced indeed!