Abrahams bossom and Paradise.wmv

Lk:23:43: And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

1Tim 6:13: I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
14: That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15: Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16: Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

2Cor:12:4: How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

Rv:2:7: He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.


Luk 16:23: And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24: And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25: But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26: And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27: Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

Jo 20:16: Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.
17: Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Later in the sam passage iin John.

Jn:20:27: Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Then in Luke.

Lk:24:39: Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.


Eph 4:8: Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9: (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10: He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Ps 68:18: Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.

Mt:12:40: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

1Pt 3:18: For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20: Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Mat 27:50: Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51: And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52: And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53: And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

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[JimQualls]

Amen! Glad to see your new posts, been missing you!

[kjvonly01]

@JimQualls

Thanks for the words of encouragement bro. It was very timely, and means a lot coming from you.

[NoaahsArk]

I always wondered if Jesus went to "Hell" when it says he went to prison. I always thought as Hell as the prison holding cell for the Day of Judgment and then the Lake of Fire being eternal torment. Right?

[kjvonly01]

Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Ps16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

I believe the judgmental work was finished at the cross, but then he preached unto the spirits in prison, and visited Hell while doing so.

Jn:19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

[o7jimmy]

Thanks for The Words God.

[kjvonly01]

@o7jimmy

Hope that Jimmy is faring well.

[Figsx]

Does it really seem logical to say paradise is in the heart of the earth? What kind of paradise could be underneath thousands of feet of rock and surrounded by lava? Also, why is paradise located next to hell? Paul said he was caught up to the third heaven and he called that paradise. Why do people keep saying paradise is in hell? It doesn't make any sense. Also, Abraham's bosom is not a place, its a body part. Lazarus was in the arms of Abraham...

[kiekie84]

ps i am not a spammer my name is Debbie I'm 26 and i am a christian who believes that paradise is not heaven but was a holding place for the old testament people God bless you all :P and please look at the link i found it on google while i was searching for the scripture that stated what i was thinking and i found there in the link it lays it out really nicely so yeah bye bye and God bless

[kiekie84]

this is a really good website that agrees with what you said h ttp:/ /ww w. bibletrack. org /notes/resource/misc/Paradise. html

[remieres]

@AlYassou3Rabbi So not all churches of Christ shall have the gifts but we shouldn't turn it away. Nor should we discourage any woman or man from giving a message from the Holy Spirit.

Please I don't want discord as I feel I may have struck a chord. Though if you are simply interested in an inquisitive discussion then I'd suggest you order a book my Rev. wrote called "Like a rushing Mighty wind" a very detailed and heart felt book for any who agrees with Paul's ministry and the Holy Spirit.

[remieres]

@AlYassou3Rabbi in no way am I trying to make you feel pressured to speak in tongues if you do not. For it is not a must or requirement for anyone to speak in tongues as some have tried to make it seem to me. rather I just speak about it being quite enforced in my service.

1 Corinthians 12:8-11 “kinds of tongues” and “the interpretation of tongues” are said to be sovereignly bestowed gifts of the Holy Spirit.

[remieres]

@AlYassou3Rabbi I really want to know, are you getting angry? because this almost reads as a challenge or scrutiny

show me where it says that all who attended Pauls gatherings were only men, or further more that the 500 who were over come by the rushing mighty wind of the spirit were all men, or that those they talked to over the 1000's that night were all men?

2. Show me where I said that the women I mentioned stood up. Paul speaks about women not being allowed to lead or teach a church.

[AlYassou3Rabbi]

@remieres Well that is good. It is important to adhere to what God has stated in the scriptures and not to circumvent it with our own ideas. Yea let God be true....

1. Show me one instance in scripture where a woman spoke in tongues.

2 Show me one verse where a woman is allowed to stand up and speak in church.

Lastly show me a verse from the bible which states the purpose of the gift of tongues.

[remieres]

@AlYassou3Rabbi if you mean revelation as in Prophecy then no, they give messages like

"My children always keep your eyes on me though your days may be filled with trials I am there for you, I go before you, I love you and remember though others may despise you I will always love you"

I recognize the Holy Spirit as being one with the father and he being one with Jesus. This is the Holy Spirit talking through these people, and we recognize that it's god at the same time, as well as the Christ.

[AlYassou3Rabbi]

@remieres So you are saying that these people who stand up in your church and give a message directly from Christ are giving revelation? How does that agree or disagree with Rev 22:18?

All scripture comes from God thru the Holy Ghost according to Peter. If you have a direct line to Christ, then it is not coming in the pattern set down by Gods Word. 2Peter 1:21

Looking forward to your responses to these 2 posts, brother.

[AlYassou3Rabbi]

@remieres Well that is good. It is important to adhere to what God has stated in the scriptures and not to circumvent it with our own ideas. Yea let God be true....

1. Show me one instance in scripture where a woman spoke in tongues.

2 Show me one verse where a woman is allowed to stand up and speak in church.

Lastly show me a verse from the bible which states the purpose of the gift of tongues.