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Uploaded by on Jul 29, 2008

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/28/jim-d-adkisson-charged-in_n_115281.html

My Condolences, and some related concerns on the state of the atheist mind.

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  • This guy aside, was Pekka-Erik, the 'natural selector' not a self proclaimed Atheist? In that case it has already happened. And it could happen again. That's why we have to keep looking out for people with an unhealthy obsession with violence, atheist or not.

  • Was he indeed? I had not heard of that case, but it sort of sounds like what I was driving at.

  • Haven't you? It happened in Finland a while back. Search for Pekka-Erik (or was it Eric?) Auvinen. The guy was a YouTuber. Claimed to be an atheist and a "social darwinist". He even was subscribed to me which I found a bit creepy when I found out.

  • Shit! How did I miss that? What a complete fuckwit. I've a lot more sympathy for Adkisson than I do for this smug little prick:-( It's telling though, atheists do tend to think a whole package of enlightenment comes along with being an atheist, and while I think this is true more often than not, a racist nazi can be an atheist too. Food for thought.

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  • @mensacyclist

    Fear is so often expressed as hatred that your assertion is ludicrous. I have an arachnophobic friend who will ball up a fist to punch a spider instead of calmly getting an object to swat it with.

    Most people's sexuality falls on a spectrum, not some either/or toggle. I'm maybe 90% straight, myself. I admit to having a few weird dreams, but nothing my waking mind wants to act on. Now imagine that in someone who has been taught that such stray thoughts are evil and lead to hell.

  • Unitarians accept agnostics and atheists along with anyone willing to be a decent human being. They're essentially humanists.

    One cousin of mine has Unitarian listed as his religious view on FaceBook, and knowing him as the freethinking sort, I suspect it's at least partially a cover. Much of the family is southern baptist, and that's about as fundie as you can get.

  • Two ironies here: one, the shooter didn't like deocrats or liberals yet he was dependent on food stamps. Secondly, he hates liberals, yet one of the signers and founding fathers was John Adams who was a Unitarian.

  • It wuold be somewhat ironic if he was an atheist. Being a Unitarian (or at least a fellow traveller) and an atheist myself these people tend to go a bit beyond tollerant. Although some Unitarian communities can be fairly theistic close to half of them as a whole outwardly disbelieve. It's simply beside the point to these people, god or not people are people and it's our shared humanity that's important. Oh and fundimentalists hate us =P. I think the abolition of hell was key.

  • Hatred frequently springs from fear. Generally speaking those that hate gays are in fact homophobic, not infrequently due to repressed, but often vaguely suspected homosexual tendencies in themselves. I consider the usage quite sound.

  • I'll never understand the obsession some many people have with MISUSING THE TERM "HOMOPHOBIC". Homophobia is the irrational FEAR of homosexuals. I can't say that I've ever met a homophobe and would venture to guess that their numbers are very small. Hatred of gays or disapproval of gays is not homophobia.

  • As usual, a right-wing loser who hates gays and liberals and fancies that they were the cause of his failures. This is typical of the evangelical fucks who want to run everyone else's lives when they can't run their own. Ignorant white trash. Guess he really solved his problems, huh?

  • There certainly are conservative, racist and homophobic atheists in the world. One good example is a guy named Larry Darby who at one time was head of the Alabama atheist association. Darby has run for public office several times in Alabama. He is well known for his hatred of Jews. He has been very vocal about denying the holocaust.

  • this was a good topic once in DEBATE FAITH

    There is no "atheistic" infrastructure in place for when christianity falls, the welfare of the displaced will fall upon our shoulders

    If atheistic mindset gains numbers and the US educational system actually teaches kids something, what will happen to all the people with masters degrees ?

    Where will all the jobs come from ?

    Talk about depressing ...

  • que sera, sera...

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