The causes Atkins gives are plausible, but not confirmed, this still doesn't give the answers required to the debate, rather faith in a cause, and that's what Christianity is about, faith, so it would rather damage his argument than support it. One chooses to believe without 100% proof. Faith.
LOL @ 1:10 ! Yes, Craig, they could have been bored. You can laugh but at least it's not an explanation that requires a supernatural cause. Atkins looks for the plausible, possible and NATURAL causes first. Unless those are ruled out completely, there is no need for a SUPERNATURAL explanation, which is by its very definition far more outlandish and farfetched.
@MrGunwitch HAHA the cheek of morons like you. It's one thing to try critically analyse rationally what they are saying but to call a genius like that with twice as high an IQ as you stupid...I need not even say. And "indoctrination"? In what religious text is any of his scientific deductions? IDIOT haha
@MrGunwitch I really think you are wasting your time arguing with this person. I have NEVER seen such a one sided debate in all my life and it is pure folly anyone who wishes to say that Atkins even had a leg to stand on throughout this debate. Craig is revolutionary I believe. I have major difficulties with a lot of aspects of the church but I believe a lot of people can learn from this man. He will never get the publicity with the way the media is inclined today.
A simple refutation of Craig is the conspiracy theory argument: If someone claims that the twin towers were bombed by CIA agents, then it is impossible to refute because whenever a claim is made in defense of the accepted dogma, it is asserted that 'that's what they want you to think'. when the Stoics claimed that nothing could be proven objectively - greek scholars crushed this argument by saying that they had to be skeptical of their own skepticism, and skeptical of the skepticism of ..etc
Atkins clearly wins because Craig is talking complete rubbish. Rubbish spoken well is just well-spoken rubbish.
Typical hare-brained comment from a youtube weekend warrior...do you really think Atkins could hold down a professorship at Oxford, (in chemistry no doubt), just through nepotism? Do you have any conception of how incredibly demanding that role would be? Of course you'd need to be a college grad to have even a slight hope of answering that question...
@MrGunwitch - okay, lets just focus on the basics: who won the debate? do you say the atheists I mentioned are confused about debate skills and oratory skills? each has said he is a strong debater, you see clearly and the rest of us are all confused?
I guess I can see why you are so impressed with atkins, he also manages to say nothing of signifcance, only he did it for much longer than you so far. Incidentally, I think he got into oxford because his father was an alumnist
The causes Atkins gives are plausible, but not confirmed, this still doesn't give the answers required to the debate, rather faith in a cause, and that's what Christianity is about, faith, so it would rather damage his argument than support it. One chooses to believe without 100% proof. Faith.
MrLinkinparkrules 1 week ago
Oh, and CSI 36AD is a pretty shaky foundation for any argument, no matter how much of an expert you are.
OSTube1 1 week ago
LOL @ 1:10 ! Yes, Craig, they could have been bored. You can laugh but at least it's not an explanation that requires a supernatural cause. Atkins looks for the plausible, possible and NATURAL causes first. Unless those are ruled out completely, there is no need for a SUPERNATURAL explanation, which is by its very definition far more outlandish and farfetched.
OSTube1 1 week ago
@211bEanS112
Just the kind of erudition one would expect from an admirer of WLC.
Add your IQ to WLC's, double it, and you are approaching me peon
MrGunwitch 2 weeks ago
@MrGunwitch HAHA the cheek of morons like you. It's one thing to try critically analyse rationally what they are saying but to call a genius like that with twice as high an IQ as you stupid...I need not even say. And "indoctrination"? In what religious text is any of his scientific deductions? IDIOT haha
211bEanS112 2 weeks ago
@211bEanS112
Revolutionary only in the extent and breadth of his utter stupidity...he is the poster boy for indoctrination
MrGunwitch 2 weeks ago
@MrGunwitch I really think you are wasting your time arguing with this person. I have NEVER seen such a one sided debate in all my life and it is pure folly anyone who wishes to say that Atkins even had a leg to stand on throughout this debate. Craig is revolutionary I believe. I have major difficulties with a lot of aspects of the church but I believe a lot of people can learn from this man. He will never get the publicity with the way the media is inclined today.
211bEanS112 2 weeks ago
A simple refutation of Craig is the conspiracy theory argument: If someone claims that the twin towers were bombed by CIA agents, then it is impossible to refute because whenever a claim is made in defense of the accepted dogma, it is asserted that 'that's what they want you to think'. when the Stoics claimed that nothing could be proven objectively - greek scholars crushed this argument by saying that they had to be skeptical of their own skepticism, and skeptical of the skepticism of ..etc
fasteddief 2 weeks ago
@mollkatless
Atkins clearly wins because Craig is talking complete rubbish. Rubbish spoken well is just well-spoken rubbish.
Typical hare-brained comment from a youtube weekend warrior...do you really think Atkins could hold down a professorship at Oxford, (in chemistry no doubt), just through nepotism? Do you have any conception of how incredibly demanding that role would be? Of course you'd need to be a college grad to have even a slight hope of answering that question...
MrGunwitch 4 weeks ago
@MrGunwitch - okay, lets just focus on the basics: who won the debate? do you say the atheists I mentioned are confused about debate skills and oratory skills? each has said he is a strong debater, you see clearly and the rest of us are all confused?
I guess I can see why you are so impressed with atkins, he also manages to say nothing of signifcance, only he did it for much longer than you so far. Incidentally, I think he got into oxford because his father was an alumnist
mollkatless 4 weeks ago