National Day of Prayer Unconstitutional (Part 2 of 2)

The second part of my look at the recent decision that declared the federal law establishing the National Day of Prayer unconstitutional.

Links:

1. Freedom from Religion Foundation, et al. v. Obama and Gibbs http://www.wiwd.uscourts.gov/assets/pdf/FFRF_v_Obama_Order.pdf

2. Lemon v. Kurtzman http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=6993086659963510613&hl=en&...

3. Christian activist Tony Perkins talking about the National Day of Prayer (from JesusSavesAtCitibanks channel here on YouTube) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0Vqd6N9sOk

4. Engel v. Vitale http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=14815219471388213647&hl=en&am...

5. Marsh v. Chambers http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3932615455276115963&q=Marsh+v...

6. Walz v. Tax Commission of the City of New York http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17244459473724212413&q=Walz+v...

7. Part 1 of this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcHPtmoXrJo

8. For a classic example of the ignorance of constitutional law that "informs" opposition to this ruling, have a look at the following video by a YouTuber who calls himself TheMoralNation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Z8HUab02A

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[kfarner1]

Having a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ is not a religion it is a relationship. God hates RELIGION! The fact that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins I guess doesn't matter to you Anti Christs. The comment "I want my national day of Blasphemy" is disgusting to me. I say this. God is not happy, and wrath will be poured out upon the earth when the church is raptured. Repent now! Turn to Jesus before it is to late for you. Last but not least READ THE BIBLE, GOD HATES RELIGION..

[ProfMTH]

@kfarner1 "Having a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ is not a religion it is a relationship."

For purposes of American constitutional law, Christianity *is* a religion.

"God hates RELIGION!"

Odd that the Bible never says that. In fact, the New Testament calls Christians to "pure and undefiled RELIGION in the sight of our God and Father" (James 1:27, emphasis added).

Now do you have anything to say that's actually relevant to the video?

[kfarner1]

@ProfMTH They make themselves look pious before men so everyone will recognize their positions.” Then turning on the religious leaders He calls them hypocrites, fools and blind, tombs full of dead men’s bones. “Every time you open your mouth death comes out!” He called them snakes headed for the damnation of hell! These were the religious leaders

[ProfMTH]

@kfarner1 I asked if you had anything to say that's relevant to the video. You've gone on for 3 comment boxes without saying anything relevant, so I'll take it your answer is, in a word, no.

As for religion, the fact remains (as I noted) that the NT has Christians being called to "pure & undefiled RELIGION in the sight of our God & Father" (James 1:27, emphasis added). Inconvenient for your "God hates religion" claim, I know, but in the Bible. So your argument is with it, not with me.

[atheistram]

@ProfMTH Nice PWN. :)

[ProfMTH]

@atheistram Thanks.

[moroney1]

It clearly states in the constitution that the government will have nothing to do with religion, so an endorsing of a christian day of prayer is an obviously unconstitutional thing

[SanguineBullet667]

@kfarner1 Your religion is a religion. Special pleading gets you nowhere. Can you not see how circular your logic is?

[skoockum]

Fuck prayer -- folks do that shit every god damned day of the god damn year... How about a National Nobody Gets To Have Their Head Up Their Ass Day, or a Federal Execute Anyone Who Uses a Fallacy or a Lie To Defend a Position Day for once?

It's fucking disgusting how badly our species needs to get a sense of perspective.

[Commentsboxcaughtme]

@kfarner1:

Just shut your mouth on matters you're too ignorant to understand.

[Commentsboxcaughtme]

@Commentsboxcaughtme

"Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty, may have found an established Clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just Government instituted to secure & perpetuate it needs them not."- James Madison

"The nearest I can make it out, 'Love your Enemies' means, 'Hate your Friends'."- Ben Franklin

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."- Ben Franklin

[Commentsboxcaughtme]

@Commentsboxcaughtme

"Religion & Govt. will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."-James Madison

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."- James Madison

[Commentsboxcaughtme]

@kfarner1

"All persons shall have full and free liberty of religious opinion; nor shall any be compelled to frequent or maintain any religious institution."- Thomas Jefferson

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because, if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." -Thomas Jefferson

"To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself." -Thomas Jefferson

[Lightdaze]

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