Versions of the Qur'an?

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1. Are there, or were there, different versions of the Qur'an?

2. If so, what happened to these other versions of the Qur'an?

3. If there are or were other versions, does this mean that:
a) the Qur'an is not divine?
b) the Qur'an we have is not trustworthy (we do not know if it is the true Qur'an)?

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There were errors in the manuscripts and recitations of the Qur'an:

Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were Waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur'an, so he said to 'Uthman, "O chief of the Believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before." So 'Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Qur'an so that we may compile the Qur'anic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to 'Uthman. 'Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, 'Abdullah bin AzZubair, Said bin Al-As and 'AbdurRahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. 'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. 'Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'anic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Said bin Thabit added, "A Verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Qur'an and I used to hear Allah's Apostle reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (33.23) Volume 6, Book 61, Number 510, Narrated Anas bin Malik.

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Some Qur'an manuscripts had missing verses (this does not mean it is not reliable, as even biblical manuscripts and other trustworthy manuscripts have some variation, but it refutes the common claim by Muslims that there was no variation in Qur'an recitation):

Zaid bin Thabit said, "When the Quran was compiled from various written manuscripts, one of the Verses of Surat Al-Ahzab was missing which I used to hear Allah's Apostle reciting. I could not find it except with Khuzaima bin Thabjt Al-Ansari, whose witness Allah's Apostle regarded as equal to the witness of two men. And the Verse was:-- "Among the believers are men who have been true to what they covenanted with Allah." (33.23) Volume 4, Book 52, Number 62, Narrated Kharija bin Zaid.

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The Qur'an is missing a verse:

The Prophet sent seventy men from the tribe of Bani Salim to the tribe of Bani Amir. When they reached there, my maternal uncle said to them, "I will go ahead of you, and if they allow me to convey the message of Allah's Apostle (it will be all right); otherwise you will remain close to me." So he went ahead of them and the pagans granted him security. But while he was reporting the message of the Prophet , they beckoned to one of their men who stabbed him to death. My maternal uncle said, "Allah is Greater! By the Lord of the Kaba, I am successful." After that they attacked the rest of the party and killed them all except a lame man who went up to the top of the mountain. (Hammam, a sub-narrator said, "I think another man was saved along with him)." Gabriel informed the Prophet that they (i.e the martyrs) met their Lord, and He was pleased with them and made them pleased. We used to recite, "Inform our people that we have met our Lord, He is pleased with us and He has made us pleased " Later on this Quranic Verse was cancelled. The Prophet invoked Allah for forty days to curse the murderers from the tribe of Ral, Dhakwan, Bani Lihyan and Bam Usaiya who disobeyed Allah and his Apostle." Volume 4, Book 52, Number 57, Narrated Anas. See also Volume 4, Book 52, See also, 69, and 299.

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[Lizzio1980]

Old bibical scriptures found in jerusalem, what were written by james ''jesus'' brother, says that jesus was not god nor was he crusified.

[Scripturian]

@Lizzio1980 That is so wrong I think it just killed an archeologist.

[omarshakeer1]

ok then so tell me how u can belive in the bible over the quran come on everyone knows the bible has to many errors the bible contradicts itself you couldnt find no errors in the quran so your trying to find errors before it was written whats wromg with you look at your own bible if you really want to know the truth its jus madnesss sorry mate use ur common sense.

[Scripturian]

Maybe you could list a contradiction in the Bible? I'd be glad to do a video on it.

[omarshakeer1]

3;40 errors in the RECITATION thats exactly whats said not errors in the quran its the words of god so i doubt any errors will be there mate?

[Scripturian]

Key word: errors. If there were errors in recitation, then that means that when it was written down there is a possibility it wasn't transmitted accurately.

[Lizzio1980]

by order of the first Caliph Abu Bakr suggested by his future successor Umar. Hafsa(peace be upon them), Muhammad's widow and Umar's daughter, was entrusted with that Quran text after the second Caliph Umar died(peace be upon them). When Uthman, the third Caliph, started noticing slight differences in the Arabic dialect; he requested Hafsa to allow him to use the Qur’an text in her possession to be set as the standard dialect, (THIS IS PART 3 SO IT COMES AFTER THE SECOND MESSAGE I POSTED)

[Lizzio1980]

@Scripturian the Quraish dialect aka Fus'ha (Standard Arabic). Before returning that Qur'an text to Hafsa; Uthman immediately made several thousands of copies of Abu Bakar's Qur’anic compilation and ordered all other texts to be burned. This process of formalization of the orally transmitted text to Abu Bakar's Qur'anic text is known as the "Uthmanic recension".The present form of the Qur’an text is accepted by most scholars as the original version compiled by Abu Bakr. Peace be upon all

[Lizzio1980]

@Scripturian Most of Muhammad's tens of thousands of companions(peace be upon them), called Sahabas, learned the Qur’an by heart, repeatedly recited in front of Muhammad(pbuh) for his approval or the approval of other Sahabas. Muslim tradition agrees that although the Qur’an was authentically memorized completely by tens of thousands verbally, the Qur’an was still established textually into a single book form shortly after Muhammad's(pbuh) death

[Lizzio1980]

@Scripturian Muslims believe that the Qur’an was repeatedly revealed from Allah(swt) to Muhammad(pbuh) verbally through the angel Jibrīl (Gabriel) over a period of approximately twenty-three years, beginning in 610 CE, when he was forty, and concluding in 632 CE, the year of his death. Followers of Islam further believe that the Qur’an was memorized, recited and written down by Muhammad's (pbuh) companions after every revelation dictated by Muhammad(peace be upon them).

[Wadhato1]

Peace,

I see WESTERNERS completely bewildered by the QUR'AN. This is ALWAYS THE CASE. Hehehe! What they don't seem to understand (GRASP) is that the Qur'an is a RECITATION! It's not the WRITTEN word that's da QUR'AN. IT IS THE RECITED WORD. The word "QUR'AN" means "RECITATION".

NEW PUBLICATIONS of the Qur'an ARE ALWAYS CHECKED not by other Quranic COPIES but by MEMORIZERS if the Qur'an. These memorizers are called "HAFAIS/HUFATH" or rather KEEPERS of the Qur'an.

[87Bjay]

Your are a Idoit you stupid brat, get you facts right before you talk. Firstly the true Quran is written in Arabic if I wrote something in Italian and got it translated into english will it be 100% the same? How about I tudor you on Islam and the Quran I charge $60 us an hr seems like you need one your recording LMAOF.......lol your a joke.